From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Mar 10 09:30:10 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA19003 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 09:30:10 -0800 Received: from gallium.csusb.edu (gallium.csusb.edu [139.182.6.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA18996 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 09:30:09 -0800 Received: by gallium.csusb.edu (5.4.1/140.2) id AA11675; Fri, 10 Mar 1995 09:29:15 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 09:29:15 -0800 From: karant@gallium.csusb.edu (Dr. Yasha Karant) Message-Id: <9503101729.AA11675@gallium.csusb.edu> To: freebsd-hackers@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: BSD Consortium and extra-consortium funding Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Folks, For some time I have been toying with the following idea. In fact, I proposed this to one of the FreeBSD organization honchos, who rejected it for reasons which seem primarily political and social; however, it might be worthy of consideration by a larger audience. The various consortia out there which accomplish useful work (including X, FibreChannel, and others) [and the name of the organization is not always "consortium" -- other titles are also in use, but the effective structure is always the same] are generally based on a mix of private and public (read Federal grant/contract) money, with one or more universities involved. These "Industry/University/Government" consortia are encouraged by Federal agenda (both Clinton and Congress, in slightly different forms). I can outline the details of several approaches for implementation if there is interest, along with realistic funding goals. The resulting work can by GPL'd, FreeBSD'd, copylefted, or whatever distribution covenants (or lack thereof) we mutually desire, although *if* we port from / develop to proprietary applications and/or devices, *some* restrictions will probably have to be applied to the resulting source/binaries. I have contacts with industry and have a reasonable track record of success with external funding. As a university base, I can provide disk storage and Internet access, along with the usual plethora of student workers (much of the actual coding in the "professional" consortia is done by students at the various academic institutions involved). A consortia would annouce FreeBSD (or whatever we decide to call the OS and its APIs to avoid any infringements, difficulties, etc.) as a "real" entity to be given serious consideration, and would allow us to develop a real support team. We would *not* be competing with the proprietary implementations (Novell UNIX SVR4, OSF/1 DEC ALPHA, etc.) for those customers who wanted proprietary cradle-to-grave full service, but would be providing an innovative *production* *stable* test bed (as was done with the original UC CSRG BSD). Yasha Karant karant@gallium.csusb.edu