From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 23 20:08:23 2014 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44CC6FEE for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x22c.google.com (mail-ig0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E258FBD for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f172.google.com with SMTP id uq10so6200142igb.5 for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:08:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=W9uAeLEG7s0XalCTRXNOG9OkOdFOzQnNUHGHoEMEyUE=; b=ZjpKXxa+eIUz72mDcLelblseLwjCDYY6zsPdRkJgJnxjVezlJd2ky3bAZqvRd1f5hK KiUkbHC8yjOHDZtCulVsK98Vshk6n7ay4NoMeS88gliG5YDcXmjxC9hdFrBLvqztQD3I 5rFQvMWb37ofPYRsAVd2Vhh3GMDtvJres6/1oAdIOMgT+FWlOisll+NPM9utWj9aQiHA /7UGHmk8c8RKTSGz+vmLYS6XP7+HrnREpIQOLx4/GTPTprSt0BVSi8KfKviVaBjxoz88 UgvWbR5lx+ZCOGoF8FE7KVVfOTXy4JJ4vEvnEVBfg5an0pcWIWdu8yc8P43yVn8PMlys IGNg== X-Received: by 10.50.50.41 with SMTP id z9mr8148998ign.16.1395605302426; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.21] (c-98-240-141-71.hsd1.mn.comcast.net. [98.240.141.71]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id v2sm18820090igk.7.2014.03.23.13.08.20 for <multiple recipients> (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <532F3F2C.7020007@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:08:12 -0500 From: Andrew Berg <robotsondrugs@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Ohlstein <jim@ohlste.in>, Daniel Corbe <corbe@corbe.net> Subject: Re: reason 23 why we've moved to linux References: <m2iorb1ms8.wl%randy@psg.com> <532EDDD0.80700@ohlste.in> <20140323153843.GA16935@lonesome.com> <532F1C48.7080003@ohlste.in> <ygflhw0zrjd.fsf@corbe.net> <532F3499.4040407@ohlste.in> In-Reply-To: <532F3499.4040407@ohlste.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, freebsd-stable stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:08:23 -0000 On 2014.03.23 14:23, Jim Ohlstein wrote: > Wow, something got the hair on your neck up. This is my point exactly. > In an ER they would take the most serious first (and sometimes gunshots > are through and through and not all that critical), and then the > non-serious *in order*, or at least reasonably so, not by a willy nilly > "I'll take this" system. That way the pretty girl with strep throat > who's been waiting only 30 minutes doesn't get seen ahead of the smelly > homeless old guy with leg ulcers who's been waiting six hours. > > Ports PR's are mostly non-urgent. Triage out the urgent and get them > done. The rest should be handled in order, not by an "I'll take this" > system. I disagree. Yes, the urgent ones need to get priority, but trying to dictate which issues *volunteers* should work on doesn't work. It's also not as simple as just urgent and non-urgent. An inexperienced contributor is going to want to do an easy update to a port they like, and if you tell that person to do some difficult fix to a port they don't care about just because it's older, you'll scare them away and their contributions will be zero. Ports are not people and prioritizing by popularity (and difficulty) is not a bad thing.