From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 5 15:01:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC9F16A400 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8956613C4A7 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 15:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l15F1bm9026802 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 07:01:38 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l15F1bC9029084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2007 07:01:37 -0800 Message-ID: <45C746CF.7030709@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:01:35 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45C64667.6020407@makeworld.com> <2100.67.184.122.32.1170656374.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> <8cb6106e0702042304o3d486a53u1f07b5007d0dfa70@mail.gmail.com> <45c6e975.Rrw0VxInM8qmFlsC%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <45c6e975.Rrw0VxInM8qmFlsC%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.2.5.64934 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: iTunes - once again. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:01:38 -0000 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >>> Call me silly, but it seems to me you ought to be lobbying Apple >>> for Linux support. >>> >>> Get a decent Apple-made Linux player, and FreeBSD support via >>> the linux emulator would *probably* work, no? >> I agree, getting Apple to support iTunes on Linux is key. I don't >> know if there have been other online petitions ... > > Good luck. My guess is that open-source systems like Linux or *BSD > are considered too easily hackable, and therefore prohibited in > Apple's agreements with the recording industry. (Even if the iTunes > app itself were distributed as binary-only, having both the input > and output drivers open-source might be perceived as making it too > easy to attack the encryption.) It's not just that. Given Apple's stance in the marketplace, they (rightly) prefer to do things when it suits their vested interests. So, considering the following points, Apple won't support iTunes on any platform other than OSX and Windows: -DRM doesn't exist on *BSD, Solaris or Linux, which means that Apple would have to do the system from scratch or adapt the system to meet the requirements of the installation platform. -The cost of development, security risks, and probable loss of IP would be much higher since they'd be spreading out their resources pretty thin by developing DRM/iTunes for other platforms. -Plus, the number of PCs owners that do have iTunes protected files is probably much smaller than the market share that own Mac or Windows machines and use iTunes. -Many times writing binary applications for Unix requires a common denominator for all applications. Considering that there isn't necessarily a common denominator in Unix (shells are different, kernels are different, not all clients have the same WMs, DEs, etc), finding and establishing that common denominator would take a lot of time. Therefore, with that thinking in mind I highly doubt that anything will come about in the near future where iTunes is supported on another platform than Windows or OSX, unless everyone will start using Linux or *BSD because of Vista ^_^. -Garrett PS Have you tried Crossoffice yet? It's a packaged suite for wine that supposedly supported iTunes (as well as Office XP) back in the day (~1 year ago). You'll have to pay for it though.