From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 3 17:19:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA17173 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:19:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA17166 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:19:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20676; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 11:49:34 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA07417; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 11:49:34 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980104114934.60892@lemis.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 11:49:34 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Tim Jokela Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Do you support spam? Re: "Invitation to list your Web Site" References: <199801040000.TAA29239@snel.execulink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199801040000.TAA29239@snel.execulink.com>; from Tim Jokela on Sat, Jan 03, 1998 at 07:00:19PM -0500 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, Jan 03, 1998 at 07:00:19PM -0500, Tim Jokela wrote: > I notice that you advertise at the website responsible for sending me the > spam quoted below, > . > > I hope that you do not support spam. Please inform whoever is in charge at > aaex.com that spamming is contrary to honest Internet business > practices. The FreeBSD project is strongly opposed to spam. We expend a lot of effort to limit it. It's also not clear that the FreeBSD project is "advertising" on this web page. We ask people who use FreeBSD to display a FreeBSD logo, including the one that you see at the bottom of this page. The page designer has chosen to make it a link to www.FreeBSD.org, which makes sense. IMO none of this has required any action on the part of the FreeBSD project. It's a sad fact of life that even predatory net users can use FreeBSD. It would be contrary to the FreeBSD mission to try to stop them. Greg >> Received: from x-mail.net ([207.112.236.164]) >> by snel.execulink.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA00894 >> for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:46:21 -0500 (EST) >> From: admin@infobase-intl.com >> Received: from [206.12.96.77] by x-mail.net (NX5.67g/NX3.0M) >> id AA10853; Sat, 3 Jan 98 13:46:24 -0800 >> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 98 13:46:24 -0800 >> Message-Id: <9801032146.AA10853@x-mail.net > >> To: tjokela@execulink.com >> Subject: Invitation to list your Web Site >> X-UIDL: c2e144eb4e804b1aaaf44a30bd8ca560 >> >> Hello.... >> >> We invite you to list your Web Site free of charge in our new Internet > Directory located at: >> >> http://www.infobase-intl.com Another observation: there are various levels of spam. I once had a spammer use my system to relay spam, trying to make it look like it came from my site. I consider that the worst, a criminal offence. Next are those who spam mailing lists with unrelated, often obsecene or illegal propositions. After that are those who spam individuals with unrelated, often obsecene or illegal propositions. Finally, there are those who spam individuals with propositions which they think may be of interest. I'd certainly think that this one falls into this category. OK, it's spam, but it's less obnoxious than most. Greg