From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 27 00:43:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09F5106566C; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from uucp.dinoex.sub.de (uucp.dinoex.sub.de [194.45.71.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6E28FC17; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from uucp.dinoex.sub.de (uucp@uucp.dinoex.sub.de [194.45.71.2] (may be forged)) by uucp.dinoex.sub.de (8.14.1/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m2R0D8O3070514; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:13:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from citylink.dinoex.sub.org (uucp@localhost) by uucp.dinoex.sub.de (8.14.1/8.14.0/Submit) with UUCP id m2R0D84T070513; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:13:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from gate.oper.dinoex.org (gate-e [192.168.98.2]) by citylink.dinoex.sub.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2QNjSda002539; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:45:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@gate.oper.dinoex.org) Received: from gate.oper.dinoex.org (gate-e [192.168.98.2]) by gate.oper.dinoex.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2QNjEip001935; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:45:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter@gate.oper.dinoex.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by gate.oper.dinoex.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m2QNjE39001934; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:45:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from peter) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:45:13 +0100 From: Peter Much To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20080326234513.GA30601@gate.oper.dinoex.org> References: <200803261700.12851.jhb@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200803261700.12851.jhb@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: uucp.dinoex.sub.de; Sender-ip: 194.45.71.2; Sender-helo: uucp.dinoex.sub.de; ) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (uucp.dinoex.sub.de [194.45.71.2]); Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:13:09 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, Peter Much Subject: Re: "s/stable/broken/g" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:43:58 -0000 On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 05:00:12PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: ! Try this patch for de(4). Thanks fpr the reply. I'll try this patch at next reboot. ! You need to supply the panic details for the devfs ! one (I've used devfs rules w/o issue on lots of machines ! via /etc/devfs.conf). I have found, eh, not the solution but the problem. ;) This one: kern/89784 describes the same symptom and nearly the same backtrace. And it is still open, so this, well, just seems to exist. And, things being this way, I don't think there is need for me to do any more about it for now, as this does not really hurt and workaround is easy. Actually, the horror is not that something does not work - the horror is when, in an ambitiously complex setup which isn't fun to upgrade anyway, the next pagefault derisively grins at you, at the point when you would like to finish and go for a sleep, or a beer - and you know there are some good friends who have placed some web-stuff onto the machine, and you don't want to disappoint them... It's a situation where one enjoys reaching a good availability, but far from worth setting up an identical test environment (which would be the appropriate strategy to really avoid such surprizes). rgds, PMc