From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Mar 28 1:19:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smyk.apk.net (smyk.apk.net [207.54.158.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68D337B417 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 01:19:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from carbon.apk.net (stuart.apk.net [207.54.148.235]) by smyk.apk.net (8.11.2/8.11.2/apk.010219+rchk1.22+bspm1.13.1.5a) with SMTP id g2S9J9516276 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 04:19:10 -0500 (EST) From: Stuart Krivis To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: qmail (Was: Maintaining Access Control Lists ) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 04:19:17 -0500 Organization: Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems, Inc. Reply-To: ipswitch@apk.net Message-ID: <2615aukdfdd1o37jnfjoiu2hr2l5el0ppn@4ax.com> References: <20020323002608.B20699@ra <000c01c1d3ab$6d2c6960$6600a8c0@penguin> <20020325015236.A97552@futuresouth.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.9/32.560 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:46:30 +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: >> the qmail user community is more than sufficient for support. > > Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Just like C makes a perfectly good macro language. There _are_ quite a few zealots in the "qmail user community," but that's true of other groups too. Linux vs. FreeBSD anyone? >have given classes on DNS for the company Men & Mice, using material=20 >written by Cricket Liu (and I will be doing so again at SANE 2002).=20 Men & Mice has some neat stuff. I suppose I should also point out that BIND is the basis for several commercial products. (Cisco Network Registrar, Metainfo's MetaIP, and I believe also QIP that Lucent picked up. It's also part of Nixu Namesurfer. Men & Mice put it to good use too. :-) Postfix and Sendmail are also being used in a number of places. Qmail is not. (I think this is a licensing issue since Dan thinks he knows better than you how your filesystem should be laid out and is very restrictive about distributing binaries unless you toe that line.) >and qmail ranks below dog poop in my book. IMO, you would literally=20 >be better off flinging canine excrement than using qmail. I won't go quite _that_ far, but I can understand why you feel this way. > However, unless you are willing and able to function on this=20 >level, I doubt that there is anything you're likely to bring to this=20 >debate that I would find useful or interesting. Agreed. Those "Sendmail sucks and Qmail rulez d00d! responses don't do much for me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message