From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Thu Aug 10 00:38:14 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233A8DD8FE7 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 00:38:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rollingbits@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22a.google.com (mail-it0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE151661C7 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 00:38:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rollingbits@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id 76so5946648ith.0 for ; Wed, 09 Aug 2017 17:38:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=FZOCylcZ4EzPp8phHjtvlBJMJV3Oa9zKJa8R+nDUjyI=; b=QlZ0BxAvSC/ClDra0d8FyEEVkaQtZt1RV0/tfJi2gB/psxipOx/KQBZVM+uAWOSP5S F/xe1NPgvFVfMOGJljEwvg53JyRfA33BXIvhcbJED/Zfk77/DmP1qNG9PkESCW0aNnn1 II38d+HXMkZAHCitUbFtSsmg//0FPKr/KCKEAnvx+182pTQu9xHRbLI4yAwPVvMO+425 B7z/foMCjg3gP7IXfW2jgwyBOYhF/S3EyY0jX6ps2nvVCVHkWP2mBpdl86ARSBropPQx 3Ibgfq9iK7etMGKtXKPdneZIDaEwZlKE2UJin2fXN7QU/g7DSW309NK3kuHGksIT3FB2 el3g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=FZOCylcZ4EzPp8phHjtvlBJMJV3Oa9zKJa8R+nDUjyI=; b=JK2rmd79Dolq8WL+f4MGX63yaBmW03ITsTXa6ie6/pgTAt8w+t/IrIfrIQrTAaEr15 sCA/s7ENXgYYngKa7a8tLfq5YBgU0u5pN2lzHEmG/TPB0kjXWC5NJ6BgIC5THl6DQCL3 AV3aWTsofARXCrstrOULmq6A12TJ8aJjXd94YABsnU9HnvbyE/phyZ9+aKEL5JI28Aas sxSsqHPd2EpgU/WTut0F5USJG3fgA6nADVXJJM4+Ry/xCIhQYfsML7vVhqjxHyZxcYAg wNFsJf+rOTeOQ/13+4cM3C6u4CiTXP287L4xJMymVAzQNrUYb+WOp0NgYEXsCpb1O4qf We0A== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5gG8HAoIemk8xtkKQ6ebX4IJO4U0OGpO6hCT/V2hf1tW0oKK7dZ 7FJiulN/j0Kgvl76ZlryxuIZ7MFH4A== X-Received: by 10.36.69.73 with SMTP id y70mr10012357ita.94.1502325493148; Wed, 09 Aug 2017 17:38:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.36.112.143 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Aug 2017 17:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.112.143 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Aug 2017 17:38:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <26de0aed-8151-6105-188f-ad0c6c6cf8b8@erdgeist.org> <86y3r4ubvx.fsf@desk.des.no> <84c3e9d0-3d44-b310-a946-96eb0c54e79d@sorbs.net> <861sowy5ay.fsf@desk.des.no> From: "rollingbits (Lucas)" Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 21:38:12 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DefCon lecture BSD Kern Vulns To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 00:38:14 -0000 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "rollingbits (Lucas)" Date: Aug 9, 2017 9:36 PM Subject: Re: DefCon lecture BSD Kern Vulns To: "Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav" Cc: On Jul 31, 2017 12:50 PM, "Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav" wrote: Michelle Sullivan writes: > People should talk between, and maybe people should put security and > co-operation before pride and empires... [...] There are decades of history here of which you are clearly unaware. Your may have the best of intentions, but nothing good will come of raising this topic here and now. Just drop it. History continues... our lives are more connected. More peoples are involved. There are decades of examples of hacking and computer insecurities. l also think this project should be more aware of security. Some times I think that another period of plain bug hunting as happened in the long 4.x series will make wonders to the system. l ended here because of this mythical series, even. Other times I just think I misunderstood the engineering process: a bug hunting and integration phases are hidden somewere l still don't know. --=20 rollingbits -- =F0=9F=93=A7 rollingbits@gmail.com =F0=9F=93=A7 rollingbits@= terra.com.br =F0=9F=93=A7 rollingbits@yahoo.com =F0=9F=93=A7 rollingbits@globo.com