From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Apr 25 05:10:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA10666 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 05:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tinny.eis.net.au (ernie@tinny.eis.net.au [203.12.171.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA10655 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 05:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ernie@localhost) by tinny.eis.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA03571; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 22:10:01 +1000 From: Ernie Elu Message-Id: <199704251210.WAA03571@tinny.eis.net.au> Subject: Re: Compiling cvsup, what a joke To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 22:10:00 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <6509.861967719@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Apr 25, 97 04:28:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > Your machines are either misconfigured or you simply do not know what > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > They are all stock 2.2.-RELEASE machines with the bin and src distributions > > installed. > > Which by no means implies that they are configured with the right > amount of swap space, memory and other resources to be *development* > machines (e.g. compile large things like modula3, a very definite > development activity). Since the "(A)uto" defaults do not configure > for a development machine, development machines *not* being the most > common configurations despite what some hackers might wish to believe, > if you're not specifically making sure that the box is appropriately > configured for these activities then yes, things will fall over just > as you'd expect them to on a misconfigured box. > > The default configuration, for historical and statistical reasons, is > a mid-range desktop box. No huge compiles or enormous applications > expected, just what you'd expect to do with a modest (<16MB) amount of > memory and a space-conservative amount of swap. Your home test > machine probably has more memory and/or swap space configured than the > other boxes and so it just happened to work out of the box for you. > > Jordan > Right, so what you are saying is gone are the days of keeping current with the -stable tree unless you either install the bin distributions regularly or have a machine configured as a "development machine". Fair enough. A loss of the ease of upgrade we had in the past, thats all. - Ernie.