From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 24 16:08:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD3F8EF1 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:08:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-f181.google.com (mail-ig0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F5C7273 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:08:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f181.google.com with SMTP id h18so6781903igc.2 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 09:07:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to; bh=7hDY985Gx0C4TZUY69zeuPYgwo+L7sFjGuMbyZSLJ6E=; b=JgsD+dEox2mDah3vipmtwQyng64UGBec1t6HaSiRiL1HMvV9gnEcRDbMk3oNDQpBgw NHE3q3VQ2yeQEQqAi17VwBtJD7cltodSW3qpY7C6iCxuqqquCgbw12lpPFp6yYHtu3df u+bwuJeeSE681t4s2nG9V5CreFaM6u6R1qOvav8sBFamIbyEnzfiXK+BlSTE0ibsX2FB V413KXR391icxWJ+yoaSEPMEWO+U6Gks4tOZqi/Dj314v2FZeSWaCb8krlPzC0KnBPPq 3xXF7iGcIpUBjbOm1gO3p7Sm1jWnGGj21ZtrtCbW4DLsHRYBzP9gvbjy6NsvIQf3OSiJ Tygg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmsh8T1yA/8Q+fo6hijHzZmqfJ6AHWbJQoGv7gBDE0v44Mjz8jptyuXujDqjrTbhrH947uG X-Received: by 10.50.72.73 with SMTP id b9mr10922776igv.0.1411574874402; Wed, 24 Sep 2014 09:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.1.10.70] ([50.253.99.174]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qo8sm4610308igb.7.2014.09.24.09.07.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Sep 2014 09:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Warner Losh Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_249F6AAF-08C8-499C-A5AC-86A2F38D3450"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [RFC] fully integrate etc/Makefile into bsd.prog.mk From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <8CE07FF2-6D08-4270-8214-1C8493E56536@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 10:07:50 -0600 Message-Id: <8D6B4CD4-D099-4BA9-9BE1-39FC4658A992@bsdimp.com> References: <11E49217-8154-47AC-8D39-68256017D3A8@gmail.com> <0A216B9F-3437-461E-A52A-032F6B86B5F2@bsdimp.com> <5421F165.7030304@wemm.org> <20140923231205.GA40545@hub.FreeBSD.org> <8CE07FF2-6D08-4270-8214-1C8493E56536@gmail.com> To: Garrett Cooper X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: Glen Barber , "freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Arch" X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 16:08:01 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_249F6AAF-08C8-499C-A5AC-86A2F38D3450 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Sep 23, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Garrett Cooper = wrote: > On Sep 23, 2014, at 16:12, Glen Barber wrote: >=20 > ... >=20 >> And the "other people's" is exactly why etc/Makefile should remain >> untouched. Many companies build their own releases, and touching >> something for the sake of touching something will inevitably break >> something that has worked for a long time. >>=20 >> In my opinion, etc/Makefile is not broken, so there is no reason to >> "fix" it. You can consider my reply an objection to arbitrary = changes >> to etc/Makefile, in this case. >=20 > Ok. I=92ll rescind my proposal to cleanup/change the = structure/method used for installing things in etc/Makefile, and instead = focus on testing and review of the removal of optional pieces from the = install which are always installed. > Thank you for the input, That=92s why I asked what the plan was. etc/Makefile is simply fraught = with danger. 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