From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Feb 9 16:32:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3162742C6 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:32:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id LAA52961; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:02:00 +1030 (CST) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:02:00 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Brett Glass Cc: Jon Hamilton , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What Linus said about FreeBSD Message-ID: <20000210110200.N44456@freebie.lemis.com> References: <20000209230436.A5D1E9B@woodstock.monkey.net> <4.2.2.20000209165815.03e22a70@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000209165815.03e22a70@localhost> WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, 9 February 2000 at 17:16:13 -0700, Brett Glass wrote: > At 04:04 PM 2/9/2000 , Jon Hamilton wrote: >> [quoting Brett Glass] >>> Using or supporting the GPL, on the other hand, IS attacking others, >>> since the GPL itself is intended to hurt people. >> >> You've taken your conclusion as given, and are arguing back from that point. > > That the GPL is intended to hurt people is, simply, beyond > dispute. Richard Stallman has explicitly and repeatedly stated not > only THAT it is designed to hurt people, but whom it is designed to > hurt, and how. Jon, it's for reasons like this that I don't continue discussions with Brett. If he could channel his ability into something positive, like the Daemon News article I suggested, it would be one thing. But it seems that his perception of the GPL is at the centre of his being, and nothing will shake it. It's a pity, because it devalues him as a serious discussion partner, but there's obviously not much we can do about it. How about just stopping this thread here and now? Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message