From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 16 19:09:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DB99CD704 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 19:09:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90491543 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 19:09:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id E5CA49CD703; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 19:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55529CD702 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 19:09:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A12D71542 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 19:09:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t8GJ9RZV048831 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:09:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t8GJ9RrU048828; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:09:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:09:27 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Glenn English cc: freebsdQuestions Subject: Re: 10.2 graphics problem In-Reply-To: <960A2105-92B2-4986-88FD-9D761AB47A3C@slsware.net> Message-ID: References: <8F541F88-2EAE-434C-B52C-43A744F54ADD@slsware.net> <867fnr1lwy.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20150915225637.05c1ffad.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150916095120.9a44b05a.freebsd@edvax.de> <960A2105-92B2-4986-88FD-9D761AB47A3C@slsware.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:09:27 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 19:09:30 -0000 On Wed, 16 Sep 2015, Glenn English wrote: > > On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Warren Block wrote: > >> The Handbook X chapter needs a rewrite. I've talked about it, but not had time to actually do it. > > Us noobs (especially those of us with X troubles) are just ever so glad to hear that there's something [citation needed] wrong in the X chapter of the Handbook :-) My short version is: 1. Use vt(4). This is the default on... well, someplace lately. 10.1-RELEASE, maybe earlier. 2. Install x11/xorg, not x11/xorg-minimal. Walk before you run with scissors. 3. Do not auto-generate an xorg.conf or use an old one. First, start X without any config file at all. Only create a config file if settings must be changed to make it work or add options. And if that is necessary, only put those entries in the config file. Everything else will autodetect.