From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jun 17 10:33:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28539 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:33:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (root@gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28526 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 10:33:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (kaput@aeiusrI-02.aei.ca [206.186.205.152]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06926; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:33:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3587FD9F.1AC89C03@aei.ca> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 13:32:15 -0400 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Gerchmez CC: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A first encounter with 'vi' References: <3.0.5.32.19980615181815.007f16b0@mx.serv.net> <3.0.5.32.19980616181522.007f0990@mx.serv.net> <3.0.5.32.19980616210023.007f6370@mx.serv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tim Gerchmez wrote: > > At 09:29 PM 6/16/98 -0400, you wrote: > > >Argh, Tim you are closed minded. > > Gee, thanks. Just because I can't stand Vi and don't want to teach myself > how to write a 500 page novel using it, I'm closed minded. Hmm, OK, > whatever you say. > > >I'm newbie. I dont think un*x is the solution for a newbie. > > I'm a newbie to Unix, but not a newbie to computing. I've been into > computers for 15 years, and put in enough hours in those 15 years in front > of computers to make it more like 30 years. I've also been programming in > one form or another for those past 15 years too. So although you may think > my opinion is closed-minded, I certainly have earned the right to have it. > > >But if you want to know un*x, know basic tools common to unix. > >Vi is one of the most important, because if someday you go on another > >un*x-clone, vi will be there. > > So will something else, believe me, unless Unix wants to stay back in the > 1960's... in which case, I would never use it. Vi is a throwback to an > earlier era where the computer didn't do the text editing, a dumb terminal > did it, and sent the results back to the computer for processing afterwards. > > >Its a really good suggestion. > > So take it yourself - write me a 20 page essay on why you think I should > become proficient in Vi... using vi and nothing else to write it. You talk > big, prove it yourself. > Well, dont talk about it if you dont like it. Its simply than its a tool. Notice than Unix himself cannot evoluate the way you want it because Unix is not Un*x. FreeBSD is Un*x. I'm not a unix guru, I dont think vi is beautiful or than its from the past. i just think than vi is evrywhere. Like Win95 hehehe. Malartre -- -------------------------------------- malartre@aei.ca ICQ #4224434 www.aei.ca/~malartre/ FreeBSD-2.2.6 -------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message