From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 3 18:46:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F111065670; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from mail.terabit.net.ua (mail.terabit.net.ua [195.137.202.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258068FC1B; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from skuns.zoral.com.ua ([91.193.166.194] helo=mail.zoral.com.ua) by mail.terabit.net.ua with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LpoOv-0003H6-3e; Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:46:01 +0300 Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (root@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua [10.1.1.148]) by mail.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n33Ijt1V034322 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:45:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n33IjsiH054711; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:45:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: (from kostik@localhost) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n33Ijs9b054710; Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:45:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 21:45:54 +0300 From: Kostik Belousov To: Robert Noland Message-ID: <20090403184554.GZ31897@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <1238778425.65025.35.camel@balrog.2hip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+OlyQ4X911b40MMu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1238778425.65025.35.camel@balrog.2hip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Scanned: mail.terabit.net.ua 1LpoOv-0003H6-3e 01a55f6098c4e734853ea213e1a6935f X-Terabit: YES Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Ivan Voras Subject: Re: some questions about 32 bit / 64 bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:46:04 -0000 --+OlyQ4X911b40MMu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 12:07:05PM -0500, Robert Noland wrote: > On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 14:45 +0200, Ivan Voras wrote: > > Harald Servat wrote: > >=20 > > > My first issue is, I'm currently working with Linux and I'm plannin= g to > > > switch to FreeBSD 7.1, but I don't know if switch to 32 or 64 bit (i.= e., > > > i386 or amd64). If I switch to the 32 bit version, which is the memor= y limit > >=20 > >=20 > > On a server, switch to 64 bit. > >=20 > > On a desktop machime, go with 32-bit. You will only be able to address > > slightly over 3 GB no matter which graphics card you use but on the > > other hand you'll have better supported drivers and 3rd party software. >=20 > All of our drm drivers are safe on amd64. The only thing you get from > 32bit is the ability to run the Nvidia blob. If you are trying to do > emmulated things like play linux/windows games, then 32bit might be > needed, but for normal use graphics isn't a reason not to use amd64. In fact, I committed the missed bits required for wine/i386 on amd64, several days ago. We did tested that wine and mplayer+win32 codecs work. >=20 > FreeBSD balrog.2hip.net 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #13 r190402M: > Tue Mar 24 22:41:47 CDT 2009 > rnoland@balrog.2hip.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BALROG amd64 >=20 > robert. >=20 > --=20 > Robert Noland > FreeBSD --+OlyQ4X911b40MMu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAknWWWIACgkQC3+MBN1Mb4gq0wCfVI2CuclbATSCFKJC32atnA0c aPUAoJnIwiW8bvOwCNSiFDE0IrTsFWUa =+mQO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+OlyQ4X911b40MMu--