From owner-freebsd-current Sat Aug 16 02:11:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA14598 for current-outgoing; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 02:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wall.jhs.no_domain (vector.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14591; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 02:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wall.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wall.jhs.no_domain (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA00905; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:17:26 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199708151417.QAA00905@wall.jhs.no_domain> To: Andrew Gordon cc: current@freebsd.org, isdn@muc.ditec.de, steve@visint.co.uk Subject: Re: ISDN drivers/cards From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Email: Home: Lists: Work: X-web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ X-address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany X-tel: Home +49.89.268616, Work +49.89.607.29788 Fax +49.89.2608126, Data +49.89.26023276 X-company: Vector Systems Ltd, Unix & Internet Consultants. X-software: FreeBSD (Unix) + EXMH 1.6.9 (PGP key on web) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 09 Aug 1997 17:35:56 BST." Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:17:25 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Reference: > From: Andrew Gordon > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 17:35:56 +0100 (BST) > Message-id: Hi, Andrew Gordon wrote: > On Wed, 6 Aug 1997, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > steve@visint.co.uk writes: > > > > I tried using bisdn, both with -current and 2.2.2, without much luck, > I have seen problems with the PPP patches installed, but not otherwise. I have no problems, but then I don't use PPP code, so I'm an incomplete test. > > > Well, just wanted to say that in case someone suggests that we should all > > > be using bisdn. Because IMHO, it sucks, and really shouldn't be used as a > > > base for future code either. (except as a bad example.) > > Well, you are intitled to your opinion, but expressing it in the form > of general abuse (as opposed to specific criticism of techniques used) > is not at all helpful. Andrew, do you realise in the mail you addressed to me as To: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, isdn@muc.ditec.de that the criticism was from steve@visint.co.uk, not from jhs@freebsd.org ? As you (Andrew) did not assert a cc: steve@visint.co.uk steve@visint.co.uk won't have seen your reply unless he happens to be subscribed to one of the lists. Sorry to point this out so pedantically, but I do not want anyone confusing it as me coming out with those anti bisdn source code opinions ! I'm a very happy user of the code. If you want to admonish Steve please do it addressed directly to him, & cc'd or not to lists as you see appropriate, but not in a mail addressed to me, Thanks :-) Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/