From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 27 06:25:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27308 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:25:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA27303 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 06:25:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.57.198]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5C6; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:25:05 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6701.914751730@zippy.cdrom.com> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:31:45 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: IPv6 - when? which? Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCMGY+ZU5JPy4bKEI=?=) , Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino , Eivind Eklund Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 27-Dec-98 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> commit logs provide a good way to track down when the crypto >> code crossed the border, and by who :-( > > I think there are so many legal interpretations of this, many of them > conflicting with one another, that it's best not to second guess this > and just do what we do best, which is be engineers. :) > >> - how to redistribute IPsec part in the future? >> I don't want to see Jordan going to jail for redistributing IPsec :-P > > Hey, I just package the bits, I don't really distribute them. No > problem for me! :-) > > More seriously, if it comes down to it I'll ask WC to file for an > export license. Well, yer unfortunately hitting a very, very unfortunate topic =\ http://www.wassenaar.org - limits export of crypto bigger than 56/64 bits in about 33 EU countries and some others (US-like export limitations). If this goes through, then all the crypto mirrors are going to be in deep problems when IPv6 is hitting the street in FreeBSD, in other words we cannot mirror as efficiently anymore. So getting WC an export license is not going to help with the mirroring. And a large part of IPv6 is based on security/authentication for which the community asks ad which gets thwarted by the government. Please see http://www.freecrypto.org, or ask Eivind if yer Norwegian, or me if Dutch about what to do. Sorry for the intrusion, but unfortunately this is the lame (political) reality in which governments think they know what's best for the populace even when they know jack about the subject involved. --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Life is the only Pain asmodai(at)wxs.nl we endeavour... Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message