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Date:      Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:21:05 -0600 (CST)
From:      supraexpress@globaleyes.net
To:        FreeBSD Gnome <freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: add pstoedit as a dependency to inkscape
Message-ID:  <20050317192113.AFD0643D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20050317171526.GC96355@iib.unsam.edu.ar>

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Whilst I am not a developer or ports maintainer, I DO really appreciate, as a
user, ports that have additional optional "extensions" associated with a
port, made available through build options (with notices in the Makefile). I
use this functionality A LOT in several ports, such as MPlayer.

As a "user" of Inkscape, and FreeBSD ports in general, I "vote" for the
inclusion of an optional make functionality for PSTOEDIT for INKSCAPE, with
some comments as has been done with MPlayer - or at least something to
indicate WHY PSTOEDIT would be useful.

On 17 Mar, Fernan Aguero wrote:
> +----[ Alexander Nedotsukov <bland@freebsd.org> (17.Mar.2005 12:52):
> |
> | Fernan Aguero wrote:
> | 
> | >+----[ To FreeBSD Gnome <fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar> (16.Mar.2005 16:56):
> | >|
> | >| All of them disappear by installing pstoedit. The attached
> | >| patch adds pstoedit to RUN_DEPENDS.
> | >|
> | >+----]
> | >
> | >Should I open a PR so that it doesn't get lost ... it's a
> | >tiny and simple patch, though.
> | > 
> | Well. I get it. But this tiny patch brings in big dependecy. I in a 
> | doubt that majority of people will be happy to build and install that 
> | stuff just for the sake of EPS import. 
> 
> So, maybe it can be made optional or at least visible,
> perhaps by adding a pkg-message. The problem right now is
> that apart from the error messages I mentioned -- and that
> some users are requesting to be removed, see:
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=6764851&forum_id=37513
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=6770453&forum_id=36054
> it is difficult for a user to know that s/he can install
> external software to gain functionality. pstoedit is not
> even mentioned in http://www.inkscape.org/tools.php (though
> this is not our business, I'm about to report it to the
> inkscape people).
> 
> In the future this might not be necessary since a
> plug-in/extension manager is planned to be added to the
> inkscape GUI, and messages of this kind might well go in
> there.
> 
> | I also can see other extensions
> | like DIA not plugged-in by default. From the other hand if they 
> | (pstoedit, dia) installed inkscape should pickup them at run-time.
> 
> Yes, they are not actually dependencies, since inkscape
> would run nonetheless without them. But they are key
> extensions IMO. Perhaps anyone using inkscape just knows
> what s/he needs to install. Or perhaps we can just add a
> pkg-message to raise atention about a number of selected
> ports that would make a good addition to inkscape.
> 
> | What do you think guys?
> 
> This is what I think. Other ideas?



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