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Date:      26 Jan 2003 14:44:11 -0800
From:      Peter Kieser <pfak@telus.net>
To:        Willie Viljoen <will@unfoldings.net>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Stacy Olivas <olivas@digiflux.org>
Subject:   Re: Project to improve FreeBSD PR
Message-ID:  <1043621051.667.12.camel@sharpie>
In-Reply-To: <200301270026.32035.will@unfoldings.net>
References:  <200301270026.32035.will@unfoldings.net>

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I will fully work with anyone on this matter in the project, I just
didn't think it was brought to your attention that I had started
something, and will continue to do so. At the moment im busy trolling
the FreeBSD mailing list archives looking for ideas. Something has come
up in the past moments that I have to work on, but I will continue to
work on this project.

Maybe we should have an IRC dicsussion? You can contact me as Peter on
irc.striked.org


On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 14:26, Willie Viljoen wrote:
> In the excitement of setting up a project, it seems Stacy and I have managed 
> to steal it inadvertantly from Peter Kieser. Our sincerest apologies to Peter 
> for the offence, we hope that we can mend some fences and possibly join 
> forces with him.
> 
> Also, some people, including Peter, have offered servers to help host a domain 
> for such a site, our thanks to you all. Please keep the pledges coming.
> 
> The origional idea for the project is from Peter Kieser, <pfak@telus.net>, 
> please contact him with sugestions you might have for such a project.
> 
> An HTML version of the mailing list's "TO DO LIST" to improve FreeBSD PR, 
> origionally posted by Eric Anderson has been set up by Stacy Olivas 
> <olivas@digiflux.org> and is available at http://digiflux.org/fbsd-advocacy/
> 
> If you wish to contribute hosting of back-up DNS, back-up MX or WWW space for 
> the planned web site, please contact me <will@unfoldings.net> for details.
> 
> Once again, we apologize profusely to Peter and everybody else for our 
> overzealous grabbing of his idea, we're not only looking for technical 
> contributions, any hands we can get are welcome too, we hope that Peter would 
> be willing to give us a hand, possibly as a project leader and/or an editor 
> for the site, I certainly don't think I'm much of a project leader, and I'm 
> sure Stacy would agree that we could do well focusing on technical aspects of 
> such a project, with someone with the right field of skills providing the 
> leadership and co-ordination we would need to tackle this properly, and most 
> certainly to avoid stepping on people's toes in future.
> 
> Any technical help would also be appreciated, or even links or resources you 
> may know of that would be handy to such a project, please let us know.
> 
> It is my hope that Peter and Stacy aren't too vexed by the arogance I 
> displayed with my past few postings, especially appealing for help with 
> servers without consulting either of them, and, as Stacy writes in an earlier 
> e-mail, that we can work together with instead of against each other. Also 
> with other projects out there that might be doing the same thing. I'd feel 
> very silly reinventing the wheel all the time if others have already put alot 
> of work into this. It would be better to draw upon their input than to start 
> from scratch and most probably affront even more people in the process.
> 
> Sorry for all of the misunderstandings and unpleasantness I have caused, if 
> you feel like it, flames may be directed to will@unfoldings.net
> 
> With the hope that this will mend some fences and un-burn some bridges...
> 
> Kind Regards
> Will
-- 
Peter Kieser
pfak@telus.net

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