From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jun 19 13: 8:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail.broadpark.no (217-13-4-9.dd.nextgentel.com [217.13.4.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE0037B40C for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 13:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antares (80-202-4-159.dd.nextgentel.com [80.202.4.159]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with SMTP id D45447DFE for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:08:17 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <004501c217cd$12cca050$0201a8c0@antares> From: "Antonio Bravo" To: References: <20020619074442.0B59B55B1@bert.kts.org> Subject: Re: The problem with FreeBSD Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:08:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Okay, this is not really intended as a flame, but kinda necessary, given the >current situation in the FreeBSD camp. > >Let's see, some weeks ago a couple of people dropped >their ports >maintainership, why did this happen? Sergey dropped >his ports because David >O'Brien is an asshole. Yes, no news, we all know that. >Asmodai resigned some >days ago, why? Because fucking Bill Fumerola is a royal >asshole. Has fucking >Bill Fumerola ever done any worthwhile work for >FreeBSD? NO. He prefers to >spend his time flaming other people. FUCK YOU >FUMEROLA! > >Jordan Hubbard left, Mike Smith left. Why? Because a >large number of the >people involved in FreeBSD are either assholes or >hypocrites. What's the >prefered game in #bsdcode? Right, flaming Terry >Lambert. Terry may not be >perfect, but he has *never* insulted anyone, he's a nice >person to talk to, >and pretty often comes up with nice ideas. I'm talking to >you, fucking Hiten >Pandya, damned asshole. And I'm talking to you, stupid >Alfred Perlstein. >Alfred is an interesting person. He seems to be drunk >most of the time, has >never contributed anything important to the project, yet >he likes to flame >around all the time. > >Matthew Dillon is one of the few hackers worth his salt, >what does he get in >return? A 5 day commit bit suspension. Matt, please, >join NetBSD, they need >help in the SMP code, and leave all these hypocrites >alone. > >David O'Brien -> good hacker but a total asshole >Dag-Erling Smorgrav -> a total asshole >Alfred Perlstein -> drunktard and hypocrite >Bill Fumerola -> The überasshole, FUCK >FUMEROLA!!!! >Kris Kennaway -> Hyprocrite >Hiten Pandya -> an IMBECILE, grow up fucking >moron > >You all owe Terry Lambert an apology, stupid >hypocrites. > >To the rest of the people, jump shit now, and join >NetBSD while you can. >FreeBSD is not worth the hassle. > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN >Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to >majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the >message Oooooh!! -??- I'm reading BSD lists for a while...valuable. - OpenBSD: One found some US kiddies using more or less slang on OpenBSD, but excepted the now old war between Theo De Raadt and some other guys of NetBSD - the petty war that created the new state in BSDland (=OpenBSD) - there are really few flames or silly talks. - NetBSD: I do not remember rude and non-technical topics.Excepted previous: the De Raadt case.And I guess De Raadt was ok, he is an extremely clever and efficient hacker...so his straight talking is just superficial.Like some artists... - FreeBSD: The FreeBSD foundation is one of the best thing in the area of computing: the unix spirit of research and freedom plus a broad audience, many balanced figures like Hubbard and Lehey , dedicated to some noble goal.This is just like Renaissance Humanism, but in computers science. And now I read this post from Fumerola : ??? Anyway: not important. I hope there aren't really serious ego problems at FreeBSD, I mean problems that could damage the development itself. About Hubbard: I guess he has became just too busy with Apple, and well, so many years at core FreeBSD... To talk more technical: "the problem with FreeBSD" for me is this one: why no implementation of the ATA cd-rom access as a scsi one ? that makes things much easier for the burning process among other things.The ata <--> scsi code is in Net, Open ( and Linux) for a while now and works fine. You see: this not a theological problem :-)... Antonio - an "advanced" BSD luser... NB: I apologize.I write this on OutLook under w2k, because I need sometimes to use that anyway.But when more software will be ported to unix the world will burn micro$oft... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message