From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 4 21:26:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D54A106566B; Wed, 4 Jul 2012 21:26:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from opti.dougb.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B22C178CB0; Wed, 4 Jul 2012 21:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4FF4B427.1010808@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 14:22:47 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120624 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Baptiste Daroussin References: <4FF2B457.9030505@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20120703183415.GB3379@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <20120703183415.GB3379@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Sayetsky Anton , FreeBSD Current , "Hartmann, O." , bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Why NOT using FreeBSD? Re: ports/169581: editors/libreoffice: X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 21:26:31 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 07/03/2012 11:34, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 10:59:03AM +0200, Hartmann, O. wrote: >> On 07/02/12 08:09, Sayetsky Anton wrote: >>> I will test libreoffice build on 8.3-RELEASE today or tomorrow. >>> I have both gstreamer and boost installed now. >>> >> >> >> We use FreeBSD 9.0STABLE and FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT (both amd64). >> >> devel/boost-lib gets reeled in now by editors/libreoffice by default, so >> it doesn't need to be installed explicitely. >> >> I saw a patch flushed in yesterday, submitted by bapt@. This patch also >> installs LLVM/CLANG from the ports - with ASSERTS deactivated. >> >> I have on both systems, FreeBSD 9 and 10, LLVM/CLANG 3.1 as the standard >> backend compiler, I guess this version has the suspected ASSERTS activated. >> >> Why another LLVM port? We already have LLVM/CLANG in the base system (9 >> and 19). If the ASSERTS proble is the cause for breaks reported on the >> list and elsewhere on the net, why isn't the maintainer still stuck on >> the "old" version? >> >> I just managed it to install the prior version on broken systems and was >> really lucky having LibreOffice working again. But the other day I was >> bothered by the next non-working version and now I have lots of >> notebooks remaining with NO LibreOffice on FBSD 9-STABLE. >> >> This is not what I expect from quality securing! It is simply a mess and >> definitely another reason and point for the thread "Why NOT using FreeBSD". > > sure libreoffice is so easy to port... > > /me officially gives up with that libreoffice port, open for new volunteers If you don't have time to work on the port, then don't, that's not a problem. But throwing a hissy fit here doesn't help at all. It's a plain fact that a working office suite is a basic requirement for most desktop users. If _we_ can't provide that (note, not you, personally, we, as a project), it's a valid reason for users to avoid FreeBSD for desktop use. If we're ever going to make progress in this area we have to be willing to examine and absorb facts; and then act accordingly. Doug - -- This .signature sanitized for your protection -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJP9LQnAAoJEFzGhvEaGryEYk4H/0TcxjVnax0xgrt4/3WMvwWU t/GNQ7Fws3EJSrZN2vB3LSnmwRv7UbkmotXLzirS+f/SmwREUH0677DV3EFlxuxx WvXvtYexu4XHWOeODZi5m8crbNUM94HLnwTfo2gecMah+eL6M46EoBAfCJT4NtUD 1AYIsZTpiEqEvLHJCNj+Mwt0YiH3XxAdRhhfSMolKBm7B6lqOsEA5cEnA2QTWBWI bDeUB8hZuW1q6O5U60xdTZMjDQNGroVg6nuCtTihXj7/DWKR41Wgzezh14qFKs7m Hki/eRGzQA3DTLKuf51PY+FO7epBeWC5YCNxe52ASqU+pKdUYpfS3vCw3BmbqPg= =4Mp6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----