From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 13:18:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAD6106566C; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:18:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from kagate.punkt.de (kagate.punkt.de [217.29.33.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C658FC1B; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:18:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (hugo10.ka.punkt.de [10.0.0.110]) by kagate1.punkt.de with ESMTP id m55D3LA5042185; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:03:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m55D3KGO045499; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:03:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93@hugo10.ka.punkt.de) Received: (from ry93@localhost) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m55D3KSr045498; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:03:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:03:20 +0200 From: "Patrick M. Hausen" To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20080605130320.GC40682@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> References: <9B7FE91B-9C2E-4732-866C-930AC6022A40@netconsonance.com> <4846E637.9080101@samsco.org> <48472DB6.5030909@samsco.org> <6010676B-91B0-4AF8-ACF8-039A59B29331@netconsonance.com> <484736E0.6090004@samsco.org> <4847D5F8.80605@FreeBSD.org> <20080605125105.GA79727@eos.sc1.parodius.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20080605125105.GA79727@eos.sc1.parodius.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: Jo Rhett , FreeBSD Stable , "Bruce M. Simpson" Subject: Re: CLARITY re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:18:07 -0000 Hi, all, On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 05:51:05AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 01:03:04PM +0100, Bruce M. Simpson wrote: > > Jo Rhett wrote: > >> > >> I am suggesting that given that the current bug list for 6.3-RELEASE is > >> both (a) too large and (b) breaks things that work fine in 6.2 ... that I > >> think pushing 6.2 (the real stable release) into EoL is a bit rushed. I > >> sympathize with the development costs of maintaining old versions. Again, > >> I will help in any way I can. > > > > I'm sorry to hear about the problems you've been having. > > If the exact regression between 6.2 and 6.3 can be tracked down, great. > If it's in a specific driver, CVS commit logs or cvsweb will come in > handy. Otherwise, if it's some larger piece of code ("ohai i revamped > the intrupt handlar!"), chances of finding it are slimmer. I'm a bit > disappointed that Jo hasn't explicitly mentioned what's broken in 6.3 > that's affecting him, because that might help everyone. Heck, I'll even > add it to my Commonly reported issue wiki page. PRs would be good, but > I'll gladly take past mailing list discussions. Since we, too, use quite a few machines in production, most of them 6.3 BTW, i spent some time searching the PRs with the keyword "3ware" and varying combinations of release, severity, etc. I was not able to find anything with respect to that hardware that wasn't recorded as early as 6.1. em0 lockups were fixed around 6.1 for us with Jack Vogels kind assistance (and hardware provided by us ;-) Kind regards, Patrick M. Hausen Leiter Netzwerke und Sicherheit -- punkt.de GmbH * Kaiserallee 13a * 76133 Karlsruhe Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100 info@punkt.de http://www.punkt.de Gf: Jürgen Egeling AG Mannheim 108285