From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Mar 29 11:17:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87231563B38; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 11:17:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FAC18AD09; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 11:17:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.229.77]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MLAZe-1hRuXu2ZFa-00IFfv; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 12:12:12 +0100 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 12:12:12 +0100 From: Polytropon To: mayuresh@kathe.in Cc: Andrea Venturoli , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is Sendmail still around? 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Does the mail provider have a mail relay you can use? In that case, the setting define(`SMART_HOST', `mx.example.com') in your mail configuration, followed by a rebuild and restart (see /etc/mail/Makefile's comment header) should be sufficient. This method does not require you to interact with any external SMTP server. > Till date, I have been unable to even figure out how to do that, leave > alone actually succeeding at doing it. If you know an easy way to do the same as above, but with SMTP, let me know. Since my provider stopped offering the mail relay, I had to put the SMTP details into my GUI MUA's configuration and now have to wait for the annoying progress bar instead of the previously possible "click and forget", and I currently do not have my own _real_ mail server... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...