From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 09:04:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977D437B401; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 09:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FEE43F3F; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 09:04:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h56G4NVm031037; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 09:04:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h56G4NXB031036; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 09:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 09:04:22 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Doug Barton Message-ID: <20030606160422.GB82589@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030605235254.W5414@znfgre.qbhto.arg> <20030606024813.Y5414@znfgre.qbhto.arg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030606024813.Y5414@znfgre.qbhto.arg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: Brad Knowles cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Way forward with BIND 8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 16:04:31 -0000 On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 03:01:02AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Brad Knowles wrote: > > > At 12:09 AM -0700 2003/06/06, Doug Barton wrote: > > > > > FYI, for those wondering why I'm not considering BIND 9 for import, please > > > see http://people.freebsd.org/~dougb/whybind8.html > > > > I might be able to buy your arguments for supporting BIND 8 > > instead of BIND 9 in -STABLE, but not in -CURRENT. > > Regardless of whether I agree with the points you make here or not, the > FreeBSD development model requires that what we import in -current, for > the most part, be what we plan to eventually MFC. That factor alone > eliminates the possibility of importing BIND 9 at this time. We do not have to strickly ahear to this. Once I upgraded the -CURRENT compiler with a major revision change, I certainly didn't later commit a new minor rev of the previous compiler to -current before committing it to -stable. We certainly can't import BIND9 to -STABLE w/o a trip thru -CURRENT. But you can certainly upgrade the BIND8 in -STABLE to a newer minor revision release. I agree with Brad that we should have BIND9 in -CURRENT. It is the latest release, it is the future, we should get it in now while -CURRENT is still for early adopters to get experience with BIND9. > Correct, however historically the project has chosen what it wants to be > "adventurous" about. Using the "tried and true" versions of things in > src/contrib gives us more flexibility to be "adventurous" in the parts of > the tree that are generated by the project. Uh... we've imported early alpha versions of compilers and assemblers/linkers into -CURRENT before. We are more adventurous in -CURRENT. > However, those who really want to embark on the adventure of testing bind > 9 in production can do so using the port. At what point will you finally feel BIND9 is ready for normal use? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)