From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 24 13:57:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E11F16A418 for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:57:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B533C13C46E for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (vader.bytemobile.ondsl.gr [83.235.244.135]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id l8ODvCYA013551 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:57:32 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8ODuvhw003782; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:57:12 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l8ODutNb003781; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:56:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:56:55 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Nikos Vassiliadis Message-ID: <20070924135655.GC2880@kobe.laptop> References: <6CBE22B2-206F-4695-889F-5630E6B9399C@dragffy.com> <200709222012.20747.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <20070922204107.GD3766@kobe.laptop> <200709241510.30366.nvass@teledomenet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200709241510.30366.nvass@teledomenet.gr> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.967, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.43, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Pollywog , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is sendmail in the core of FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:57:55 -0000 On 2007-09-24 15:10, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: >On Saturday 22 September 2007 23:41, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2007-09-22 20:12, Pollywog wrote: >>>On Saturday 22 September 2007 19:27:36 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>>> That's because there's no such thing as a "newbie Sendmail user". >>>> Nobody stays a newbie long enough if they configure Sendmail properly >>> >>> That is why I use Postfix. I would not go from Postfix to Sendmail >>> because it would make life difficult. >> >> Heh, what I wrote was supposed to be a joke, but oh well :-) > > You haven't been forced to administer sendmail. That's why you are > making jokes about it. Well, I was, and it wasn't much fun ;) That's a false assumption to make, but I can understand why it feels like a natural response. FWIW, before starting to work as a programmer at my current employer, I spent a fair amount of my time administering Sendmail and qmail installations for several places. I am still using Sendmail almost exclusively on my home network, at work, and I am regularly helping people overcome their Sendmail problems on various mailing lists/groups. I'm sorry your experience with some Sendmail installations was as painful as it seems to have been but I can't help that. - Giorgos