From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 28 07:28:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD18F16A417; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:28:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ota@j.email.ne.jp) Received: from mail.asahi-net.or.jp (mail2.asahi-net.or.jp [202.224.39.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7672F13C47E; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:28:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ota@j.email.ne.jp) Received: from localhost (unknown [151.197.183.78]) by mail.asahi-net.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id A073B52E4C; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:08:03 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 02:07:49 -0500 From: Yoshihiro Ota To: remko@elvandar.org Message-Id: <20071228020749.b5fc0ab2.ota@j.email.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: <18754.194.74.82.3.1198744988.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> References: <20071226.003547.-932932005.imp@bsdimp.com> <1198689316.1119.382.camel@Particle> <20071226180415.GA27409@soaustin.net> <20071226.114224.-432836428.imp@bsdimp.com> <18754.194.74.82.3.1198744988.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ota@j.email.ne.jp, stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-bugbusters@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PR backlog X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:28:47 -0000 On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 09:43:08 +0100 (CET) "Remko Lodder" wrote: > > Hello Warner et all, > > On Wed, December 26, 2007 7:42 pm, M. Warner Losh wrote: > > Mark and Henrik make a number of good points here. Rather than reply > > to the details, I'm going to make a couple of quick observations. > > > > As a project we're not leveraging the community sufficiently when it > > comes to contributions. The current system of patch review and > > submission is very hap-hazard. If you happen to get the attention of > > the right person at the right time, then it goes in. If not, patches > > can languish a long time in the PR system. > > Indeed, I am one of the persons trying to find these relatively easy > things which I can do along side my other projects and things, but I dont > see them all (eventhough I try to keep track of them as much as possible); > but what will happen is that I learn more and more about the system and at > some point in time I will "stop" working on these easy PR's and seeking > more difficult ones to fix, at that point someone else has to step up to > fill in the gap that gets created; this might be a problematic part :-) > > Though for everyone having simple fixes, please send them to me so that I > can evaluate them and (together with Warner in this case (As my mentor)) I > will try to get them in as correctly and quickly as possible :-) (keeping > up with the high standards of FreeBSD ofcourse). I also opened the PR database a couple weeks ago looking for a solution to bugs I encountered. It's been quite long, some years, since I opened the PR page last time. It was surprising and also disappointing on the number of PRs left open for long time. How do I help that cleaning job? I am also interested fixing and concerned about this fact. Thanks, Hiro