From owner-freebsd-arch Fri Feb 16 11:33:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA1337B401 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:33:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f1GJWN002324; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:32:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:32:23 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200102161932.f1GJWN002324@earth.backplane.com> To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Mark Murray , arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: List of things to move from main tree to ports (was Re: Wish List (was: Re: The /usr/bin/games bikeshed again)) References: <200102161917.f1GJHPl29820@cwsys.cwsent.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :One could say the same about the "r" commands, telnet, and ftp. For :telnet and ftp: Extremely controversial. For the "r" commands, I'd :rate the issue as half way between controversial and extremely :controversial. What do you think? : :Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 :Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Yes, I agree. 'telnet' and 'ftp' would be extremely controversial (I'd like to keep them myself). The various 'r' commands rlogin, rsh, etc are in the middle. I'll separate the daemons from the clients. I think the daemons, e.g. 'telnetd', 'rshd', 'rexecd', 'rlogind' are in the middle, possibly even slightly less controversial then the client commands 'rlogin', 'rsh'. I think it may be possible to come to agreement to moving the daemons to ports. -- Scary moment of the day: At a meeting with a potential client I was standing in front of the white board an explained that we were using 'ssh' to create secure client-server links. I got blank stares. I paused, then asked to the room in general 'does *anyway* here know what 'ssh' is?'. More blank stares. This was a company doing secure VPNs. Very Scary. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message