From owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Sat Nov 17 23:59:44 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2322A110B4E0 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbruno@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.ignoranthack.me (ignoranthack.me [199.102.79.106]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 809B986B00 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sbruno@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (unknown [75.161.236.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: sbruno@ignoranthack.me) by mail.ignoranthack.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9467C1AFC96 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2018 16:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: these are the sort of things that would fry a new user To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org References: <6c26e8f7-a710-460e-1d37-ff649f698530@blastwave.org> <47e6f155-775b-5612-2f6a-9a9b723659c4@blastwave.org> From: Sean Bruno Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=sbruno@freebsd.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsBNBFk+0UEBCADaf4bgxxKvMOhRV5NPoGWRCCGm49d6+1VFNlQ77WsY/+Zvf95TPULdRlnG w648KfxWt7+O3kdKhdRwnqlXWC7zA2Qt0dRE1yIqOGJ4jp4INvp/bcxWzgr0aoKOjrlnfxRV bh+s0rzdZt6TsNL3cVYxkC8oezjaUkHdW4mFJU249U1QJogkF8g0FeKNfEcjEkwJNX6lQJH+ EzCWT0NCk6J+Xyo+zOOljxPp1OUfdvZi3ulkU/qTZstGVWxFVsP8xQklV/y3AFcbIYx6iGJ4 5L7WuB0IWhO7Z4yHENr8wFaNYwpod9i4egX2BugbrM8pOfhN2/qqdeG1L5LMtXw3yyAhABEB AAHNN1NlYW4gQnJ1bm8gKEZyZWVCU0QgRGV2ZWxvcGVyIEtleSkgPHNicnVub0BmcmVlYnNk Lm9yZz7CwJQEEwEKAD4WIQToxOn4gDUE4eP0ujS95PX+ibX8tgUCWT7RQQIbAwUJBaOagAUL CQgHAwUVCgkICwUWAwIBAAIeAQIXgAAKCRC95PX+ibX8ttKTCACFKzRc56EBAlVotq02EjZP SfX+unlk6AuPBzShxqRxeK+bGYVCigrYd1M8nnskv0dEiZ5iYeND9HIxbpEyopqgpVTibA7w gBXaZ7SOEhNX1wXwg14JrralfSmPFMYni+sWegPMX/zwfAsn1z4mG1Nn44Xqo3o7CfpkMPy6 M5Bow2IDzIhEYISLR+urxs74/aHU35PLtBSDtu18914SEMDdva27MARN8mbeCDbuJVfGCPWy YHuy2t+9u2Zn5Dd+t3sBXLM9gpeaMm+4x6TNPpESygbVdh4tDdjVZ9DK/bWFg0kMgfZoaq6J l0jNsQXrZV3bzYNFbVw04pFcvA2GIJ7xzsBNBFk+0UEBCADIXBmQOaKMHGbc9vwjhV4Oj5aZ DdhNedn12FVeTdOXJvuTOusgxS29lla0RenHGDsgD08UiFpasBXWq/E+BhQ19d+iRbLLR17O KKc1ZGefoVbLARLXD68J5j4XAyK+6k2KqBLlqzAEpHTzsksM9naARkVXiEVcrt6ciw0FSm8n kuK3gDKKe93XfzfP+TQdbvvzJc7Fa+appLbXz61TM1aikaQlda8bWubDegwXbuoJdB34xU1m yjr/N4o+raL0x7QrzdH+wwgrTTo+H4S2c1972Skt5K5tbxLowfHicRl23V8itVQr3sBtlX4+ 66q+Apm7+R36bUS/k+G45Sp6iPpxABEBAAHCwHwEGAEKACYWIQToxOn4gDUE4eP0ujS95PX+ ibX8tgUCWT7RQQIbDAUJBaOagAAKCRC95PX+ibX8trrIB/9Pljqt/JGamD9tx4dOVmxSyFg9 z2xzgklTLuDgS73MM120mM7ao9AQUeWiSle/H0UCK7xPOzC/aeUC4oygDQKAfkkNbCNTo3+A qDjBRA8qx0e9a/QjDL+RFgD4L5kLT4tToY8T8HaBp8h03LBfk510IaI8oL/Jg7vpM3PDtJMW tUi2H+yNFmL3NfM2oBToWKLFsoP54f/eeeImrNnrlLjLHPzqS+/9apgYqX2Jwiv3tHBc4FTO GuY8VvF7BpixJs8Pc2RUuCfSyodrp1YG1kRGlXAH0cqwwr0Zmk4+7dZvtVQMCl6kS6q1+84q JwtItxS2eXSEA4NO0sQ3BXUywANh Message-ID: <30ac37cc-9123-0e3d-c4a2-529d824c20df@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 16:59:38 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <47e6f155-775b-5612-2f6a-9a9b723659c4@blastwave.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="O3jvLEyviBLerGraklNGFc0akUChQPIPU" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 809B986B00 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.01 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:199.102.76.0/22, country:US]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.01)[0.013,0] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:59:44 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --O3jvLEyviBLerGraklNGFc0akUChQPIPU Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="DFmvTc3imYkwLBOvAtejqgMG84aRFUlTQ"; protected-headers="v1" From: Sean Bruno To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <30ac37cc-9123-0e3d-c4a2-529d824c20df@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: these are the sort of things that would fry a new user References: <6c26e8f7-a710-460e-1d37-ff649f698530@blastwave.org> <47e6f155-775b-5612-2f6a-9a9b723659c4@blastwave.org> In-Reply-To: <47e6f155-775b-5612-2f6a-9a9b723659c4@blastwave.org> --DFmvTc3imYkwLBOvAtejqgMG84aRFUlTQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/17/18 3:51 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 11/17/18 4:04 AM, Michael Tuexen wrote: >>> On 17. Nov 2018, at 09:56, Dennis Clarke wrot= e: >>> >>> On 11/17/18 3:46 AM, Michael Tuexen wrote: >>>>> On 17. Nov 2018, at 04:34, Dennis Clarke >>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>> eris# pkg query %t\ %n\ %v\ %o >>>>> ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libssl.so.8" not found, required by "pk= g" >>>>> eris# >>>>> >>>>> really ? >>>> Unfortunately, yes. Right now. >>>> During the release process, OpenSSL was upgraded. Not all package >>>> builders >>>> seems to be in sync. Please note that PowerPC is not a Tier 1 >>>> platform... >>> >>> Yep .. regardless I tossed 12.0b3 out an air lock and started over wi= th >>> rc1.=C2=A0 Building pkg from ports works fine. Seems to. Oddly rc1 st= ill >>> reports as BETA3 : >>> >>> eris# >>> eris# uname -a >>> FreeBSD eris 12.0-BETA3 FreeBSD 12.0-BETA3 r340039 GENERIC=C2=A0 powe= rpc >> That revision is beta3: >> >> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/340039 >> >> Are you sure you installed the RC1 image? >=20 >=20 > ummm .. yeah ... I think so. er ... nope. drat. >=20 > I fetched and burned FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-powerpc-powerpc64-dvd1.iso from > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/ISO-IMAGES/12.0/ and well gee= > I did not boot it live and check what it had to say. I could give that = a > shot. Also in the install phase I didn't drop to a shell and run this: >=20 > =C2=A0=C2=A0 dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/ada bs=3D8192 count=3D1048576 >=20 > That is overkill but it writes zeros to the first 16M sectors of the > disk. I had done that in the past to move from Debian Linux over to > FreeBSD merely to be super sure that there wasn't anything nasty hiding= > on some cyl0 area or some other silly bits. >=20 > I'll boot the dbd live and see what it says. >=20 > Yeah ... somehow managed to do an install and NOT do an install. >=20 > root@eris:~ # uname -a > FreeBSD eris 12.0-RC1 FreeBSD 12.0-RC1 r340470 GENERIC=C2=A0 powerpc >=20 > That looks better. >=20 >>> eris# pkg query %t\ %n\ %v\ %o | sort -r >>> 1542444839 dialog4ports 0.1.6 ports-mgmt/dialog4ports >>> 1542444137 pkg 1.10.5_5 ports-mgmt/pkg >>> eris# >>> >>> I still am not sure where we stand on the whole kern.smp.disabled iss= ue >>> but that is another matter. >=20 >> As I reported earlier: >> Disabling SMP with head gives a system behaving nicely. Enabling SMP a= nd >> reverting r334498 gives me a usable system, with two limitation I >> observed >> so far: >=20 > Hold on .. you say "head" and I can only assume that means some current= > dev rev hiding somewhere. I know that in the Apache world I build from > trunk just fine as they like to say "trunk" whereas here in FreeBSD lan= d > the word seems to be "head".=C2=A0 Wherefore is this wonderful fountain= of > code?=C2=A0 :-)=C2=A0=C2=A0 I am more than happy ( delighted in fact ) = to fetch sources > and build and test and figure out bits needed. Certainly on not_x86. >=20 >> 1. After a while the fans get louder. Running sysctl -a dev.fcu.0 >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 gets them down again. After a while they will start= to get >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 louder again. >=20 > Nope that isn't happening with whatever I am running here. >=20 >> 2. When shutting down the system, >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufdaem= on' to stop... >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufspac= edaemon-1' to >> stop... >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system thread `bufspac= edaemon-0' to >> stop... >> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 times out. >> >> Best regards >> Michael >=20 > Thank you for the input and help here. I think that perhaps ppc64 could= > and even should be up in tier-1 given that state of IBM servers these > days but some effort and support is merely needed. >=20 > Dennis >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Just a quick note, that we're trying to get a functional pkg set: http://pylon.nyi.freebsd.org/build.html?mastername=3Dhead-powerpc64-defau= lt&build=3Dp485206_s340525 We'll try turning up the juice from -J4 in poudriere in a bit and see how much we can push this Tyan Power8. Once we get something on -current, we'll move to 12-release hopefully. 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