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[91.91.33.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fz8sm765615wic.0.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <52460E2A.3090603@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 01:00:58 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130830 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Devin Teske Subject: Re: 9.2-PRE: switch off that stupid "Nakatomi Socrates" References: <20130921123125.309f30eb@thor.walstatt.dyndns.org> <523D7784.30002@FreeBSD.org> <5246014B.70908@gmail.com> <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720FC01C3B@LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com> In-Reply-To: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720FC01C3B@LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable stable , "Teske, Devin" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 23:01:12 -0000 On 28.09.2013 00:32, Teske, Devin wrote: > > On Sep 27, 2013, at 3:06 PM, David Demelier wrote: > >> On 21.09.2013 12:40, Matthew Seaman wrote: >>> On 21/09/2013 11:31, O. Hartmann wrote: >>>> I'd like to switch off this silly "Nakatomi Socrates" message which >>>> reminds me on Linux and their childish naming schemes. >>>> >>>> It is only cosmetics, but it bothers me whenever I switch on the laptop. >>>> >>>> I guess there is a switch already prsent to have in the bootloader >>>> config? >>> >>> It's turned off by default in more recent 9.2-STABLE >>> >>> Otherwise: >>> >>> loader_logo="orb" >>> >>> in /boot/loader.conf -- see loader.conf(5) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Matthew >>> >> >> Hi, >> >> I have loader_logo="orb" and I still have a message at the right bottom >> with that stupid joke. >> > > "Named Releases" is far from a joke. > > Maybe you'd like something a bit more boring like "9.2-RELEASE" > > The fact is... there is (and only ever will be) one iteration of FreeBSD 9.2. > > I assume that you have had no clue up until this point that there was yet > another BSD 9.2. A fictitious version of BSD in a 1980's film, named... > > Nakatomi Socrates Yes I know that, I've already seen the image a lot a few weeks ago. > > Yeah, we could have decided to let the opportunity pass; to show that we're > the first BSD to ever hit 9.2 out of all the flavors, producing the first ever > non-fictitious BSD 9.2... > > But where would the fun be in that? > FreeBSD is not Linux, I (and again, I'm not the only one) thought the idea of naming Linux 3.11 "Linux for workgroups" very stupid. In the Linux world we like to add funny messages / easter eggs directly in the kernel source, but I think this silly and not serious. So I don't really want to bring these Linux manners into our FreeBSD world. > Rest assured... I've not seen *any* hollywood films with a number higher > than 9.2... so our future looks pretty darn boring. > > The "name" for 10.0-RELEASE could very well be NULL or boring ol' > > 10.0-RELEASE > > But one thing is clear. > > There is a real tangible benefit to seeing the version on the boot screen. > > As we move to integrate BE's into the Forth boot screen, it may become > paramount to know what version of loader(8) you're using. > > So please try not to be so judge-mental about these things. > > This is a real tangible improvement and simply because you've heard > that those crazy people in Linux-land are naming their releases... > > That had zero bearing on why we did it. We may never name another release > ever again. > > I personally would like to see loader(8) set the value to include an SVN revision > so that everytime you rebuild loader(8), the version info updates; displayed > prominently in the bottom right corner (which of course... you'll again be free to > override it if you don't like it... just as you are free to completely disable the > entire menu by adding beastie_disable=YES to loader.conf(8)). >