From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 24 00:46:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBD42180 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 00:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x233.google.com (mail-wi0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F770A49 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 00:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id f8so1949030wiw.12 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 17:46:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=Q1een3SPmHT4gp978NfxLTOQBAPijRXu1IaSjLoSlTE=; b=IVuswDqkxiYRrJk3c1NU5Bq+uuThEjzD21moPEW5lMfJaw3z1lXsR/yodJA/rhmcgL 8HJsfL1zIszki/A7iHNFUFhUpl0Wbg6MAY+qafeYdokiICF5lNIf+xgMRAEMNWdOfuZr GMFx8ls7dGpO8rROoEsDpmtIvDGqfL8YDlJx974BQB7cHx7Ijc/9/BjYxYb8vveQr2Eq ASRPE82NIwnjAzrCTlUQO3R4cLmqgKUZz1eSlSSQ1gS4/uQzWqbr/0AsbpiNn5XknHiv lsq8d6l2iDqGxQau8uBUhOZrRhkvL/PDGfdVgZtoYH7MnxHIe2iikI2Ej/X3VZtI2DXW xezw== X-Received: by 10.181.11.169 with SMTP id ej9mr12124320wid.18.1395622008938; Sun, 23 Mar 2014 17:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ithaqua.etoilebsd.net (ithaqua.etoilebsd.net. [37.59.37.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id v6sm30384664wif.0.2014.03.23.17.46.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 23 Mar 2014 17:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Baptiste Daroussin Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 01:46:45 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Reko Turja Subject: Re: reason 23 why we've moved to linux Message-ID: <20140324004645.GD91792@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <532EDDD0.80700@ohlste.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qrgsu6vtpU/OV/zm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 00:46:51 -0000 --Qrgsu6vtpU/OV/zm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 01:00:17AM +0200, Reko Turja wrote: > -----Original Message-----=20 > From: Randy Bush >=20 > > in the hope that ports will be made usable before so many people give up > > that critical mass is lost. a real tragedy if the great freebsd core > > dies because of ports lack of usability. >=20 > Interestingly, I've found the ports nowadays to be almost exact opposite = of=20 > unusable, but then I don't use FreeBSD as a desktop, the boxes are in=20 > firewall, server etc. uses. Ports coupled with pkgng and portupgrade work= =20 > just a treat on freshly built 10.0 system, nowadays one can run=20 > portupdate -rf and get the end result that's expected instead = of=20 > building tons of stuff that isn't in any need of update. >=20 > Of course, there are warts, snags and bumps now and then, but based on wh= at=20 > I've seen, I like where the project is heading. Unless in the future the= =20 > only way to build ports is using Poudriere + Sun/Oracle "How to get the= =20 > suck... errr, customer invest into tons of our very costly special memory= "=20 > filesystem. poudriere works perfectly without zfs ;) regards, Bapt --Qrgsu6vtpU/OV/zm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlMvgHUACgkQ8kTtMUmk6EzmQwCgkNXsnk6z6IeGAzB34MYN6jga rl0AnjxA0UUIJ7Vj+fMGFYNBbEJ1DIv7 =FG3/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qrgsu6vtpU/OV/zm--