From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 9 01:02:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE56716A5D1 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2006 01:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr9.networksolutionsemail.com (omr9.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D26843CA2 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2006 01:01:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from mail.networksolutionsemail.com (ns-omr9.mgt.hosting.dc2.netsol.com [10.49.6.72]) by omr9.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id kB912gLr027947 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 20:02:42 -0500 Received: (qmail 17928 invoked by uid 78); 9 Dec 2006 01:02:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.15.200?) (racerx@makeworld.com@71.113.179.243) by ns-omr9.lb.hosting.dc2.netsol.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2006 01:02:42 -0000 Message-ID: <457A0B30.9030802@makeworld.com> Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:02:40 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061204) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" References: <4579EB08.8080704@intersonic.se> <6.0.0.22.2.20061208171522.0246ee00@mail.computinginnovations.com> <20061208235747.GA34082@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20061208235747.GA34082@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: id=C01BC363 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Derek Ragona Subject: Re: Running -CURRENT in production X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 01:02:44 -0000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > [resequenced] > > On Friday, 8 December 2006 at 17:15:49 -0600, Derek Ragona wrote: >> At 04:45 PM 12/8/2006, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> We're running around 25 FBSD servers, mostly 6 and a few 5-STABLE. For a >>> few months, we also run our internal storage/smb/whatnot machine on >>> -current. Never had ANY issues. Just works, and better than 6-*. >>> >>> Now, we are about to replace our MX's and I'm thinking of deploying >>> -current on them instead of upcoming 6.2. Right now running tests on the >>> hardware, two ProLiant DL360G3 cpu's and everything looks just fine. >>> >>> Am I an idiot or is anyone else out there running -current on production >>> systems? I figured if one MX goes haywire at least we've got another >>> one... Very interested in your opinion. >> Best practices are to run only stable on production servers. > > I used to run CURRENT on my machines all the time. The main reason I > stopped was not reliability, but the fact that CURRENT changes so > frequently. Time to upgrade the system is also down time. > > At the other end of the scale, I have one machine which runs my beer > brewing and is now 6 years old: > > FreeBSD brewer.lemis.com 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Tue Dec 12 18:45:30 CST 2000 grog@monorchid.lemis.com:/src/FreeBSD/5.0-CURRENT/src/sys/compile/MONORCHID i386 Yes! You need to ensure that not only the beer ages correctly, but the OS must be aged too! -- Best regards, Chris Cost of repair can be determined by multiplying the cost of your new coat by 1.75, or by multiplying the cost of a new washer by .75.