From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 10 7:50:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sgi04-e.std.com (sgi04-e.std.com [199.172.62.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AF537B406 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 07:50:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwc@world.std.com) Received: from world.std.com (world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by sgi04-e.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA39591322; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:50:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kwc@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA24607; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:50:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:50:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth W Cochran Message-Id: <200107101450.KAA24607@world.std.com> To: "Drew Derbyshire" Subject: Re: Tracking -stable remotely/colocated Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200107100227.WAA25392@world.std.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >From: "Drew Derbyshire" >To: "Kenneth W Cochran" , >Subject: Re: Tracking -stable remotely/colocated >Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 23:26:17 -0400 > >A general question ... Why track STABLE on a inaccessible >production machine? Seems to me you only want the STABLE >Releases and the security fixes, which are infrequent. Perhaps... But there are likely other things I'm interested in getting installed/updated on that machine besides security fixes. Granted, security fixes should/would be high-priority, but tracking -stable & cvs-all might indicate something I want. :) "STABLE Releases?" ?? >> - How do I install FreeBSD on such a machine? It has a CDROM >> drive, but is there a way to install without connecting a >> monitor & keyboard? > >You are going to need a monitor/keyboard or serial console to I thought so; just confirming... >do a normal install. How does this location install Frobooz >OS machine or whatever they prefer if one can't boot the >machines with a console? They connect a keyboard & monitor for (whatever, usually NT or RedHat) OS-install... >(You could do a unattended install if you try hard enough with >a custom CD which blindly copied what you wanted onto disk. >Chuck the BSD Daemon help you if it dies -- sounds like no >one else can.) Probably not worth the trouble, or Someone Would Have Already Done It... :) >Regarding installworld, you could kill by hand the processes >you don't want running to make the system quiescent. The >thing you don't want is some random background server trying >to run a module you're in the middle of rewriting. Make sure >your securelevel isn't too high. Ah, makes sense; hadn't thought about that... Hmmm, so in that case, what would be the difference between single-user mode & "multiuser" with lotsa daemons shut-down? >I routinely install kernels in multi-user mode immediately >before reboots. Again, you just don't want something trying >to load a new module as you're rewriting it, so make the >quiescent by hand before. Apparently this is do-able in Linux via some rc trickery... (?) -kc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message