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Date:      Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:26:34 -0400
From:      The Babbler <bts@babbleon.org>
To:        "Jeffrey J. Mountin" <jeff-ml@mountin.net>
Cc:        Yann Sommer <yann@yann.de>, stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Why not stick with [STABLE] [Was: RE: Releases]
Message-ID:  <3AD2FBFA.ADDF188C@babbleon.org>
References:  <4.3.2.20010410012424.02b2f580@207.227.119.2>

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"Jeffrey J. Mountin" wrote:
: 
:
> Fact is what friggin difference does make what the build calls
> itself.  Those that track the RELENG_4 branch should know that it doesn't
> matter what it calls itself when doing a uname, it is the same branch at
> different points or periods of time.
> 
> The concept of how the naming is done is not an issue and cannot be solved
> by using a different or modified scheme.  Rather the documentation should
> cover this.  Just a matter of explaining what each period means in the
> handbook and/or/both the FAQ...

On principle, yes.  I am new to FreeBSD (well, "new again"; I used it in
1995ish but back then tracking stable was out of the question owing to
my poor net connections; I upgraded when Walnut Creeek released the new
CD), and I read the handbook and subscribed to the list and it never
caused me a moments consternation when the name changed.

BUT

the endless questions in the list about the name have really gotten even
on *my* nerves; it must be driving the long-time regulars bonkers.

The idea of changing the label was to try to do something to forestall
the number of dumb questions from those who apparently can't be bothered
to read and pay attention.  Of course, they don't "deserve" help, but
the loyal readers of the lists *do* deserve reliefe from the repeated
questions, and if changing the label can give it to us, it seems
sensible to me to change the labels.

As you said "what friggin difference does [it] make what the build calls
itself?" -- so if the veterens don't care what the label is, why not
make it into something that will forestall pointless questions from the
clueless newbies?

The recent update to UPDATING will hopefully forestall some of them, but
a change to the label seems to me like a pretty useful proposal, if
everybody can agree on what to chnage it *to*.

After alll, it's the label that's causing the confusion & spurious
traffic, so that's the place to tackle the problem if we want to address
the problem at its source.


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