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Date:      Tue, 15 Apr 2025 12:09:40 +0200
From:      Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail.com>
To:        Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
Cc:        Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@pobox.com>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Firefox crashes all the time on the RaspBerry Pi Zero 2W
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I think,this version :

https://download.freebsd.org/releases/arm/armv7/ISO-IMAGES/14.2/FreeBSD-14.=
2-RELEASE-arm-armv7-GENERICSD.img.xz

or, maybe, Firefox can be optimized to run with 512 MB. For
example,installing the 32 bit version of Firefox on the Raspberry Pi zero
(if it exists),according with this post :

[image: superuser.com]
How can I configure Firefox to assume I have less memory?
<https://superuser.com/questions/459448/how-can-i-configure-firefox-to-assu=
me-i-have-less-memory>
just because on a 64 bit OS we can run 32 bit applications....at least in
Linux...

Mario.

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:06=E2=80=AFPM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmail=
.com>
wrote:

> Can I install FreeBSD at 32 bit (if it exists) on the Raspberry Pi Zero 2=
W
> ?
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 2:16=E2=80=AFAM Mario Marietto <marietto2008@gmai=
l.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I will try all your suggestions one by one. Regarding the wi-fi on the
>> raspberry pi,I want to open a parentheses...  (
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm looking for a way to transform a BT keyboard like that I've bought
>> (LILYGO t-keyboard) into a wired / USB keyboard.
>>
>> I need this conversion because FreeBSD on the Raspy (and not only here)
>> does not recognize almost all the BT/Wi-fi devices or if it does,they wi=
ll
>> not work.  I found this adapter :
>>
>> https://www.intelletto.com/products?id=3D3004
>>
>> I would like to understand if it works like I imagine. Basically what I
>> want to do to reach the final goal are the following tasks :
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) I attach the BT dongle
>>
>> 2) I turn on my LILYGO bt and it starts waiting for the signal
>>
>> 3) I attach your adapter
>>
>> 4) I do the pairing
>>
>> 5) FreeBSD recognizes the Keyboard as a USB device and it starts working=
.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to know if,using that adapter, I can exonerate FreeBSD from
>> recognition or maybe it's better to say make it work,the BT dongle that
>> I use to do the pairing with my LILYGO keyboard....if the keyboard will =
be
>> recognized as one USB keyboard I can use use it on FreeBSD installed on =
the
>> Raspy.
>>
>>
>> closed parentheses )
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 1:59=E2=80=AFAM Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>=
 wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 13, 2025, at 15:41, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On 4/13/25 16:47, Mario Marietto wrote:
>>> >> Why isn't there a specific version of FreeBSD for the raspberry pi
>>> zero 2W ?
>>> >
>>> > Hello Mario,
>>> >
>>> > You might think about re-wording that question. It sounds like that
>>> you're demanding that others do work, gratis, for you.
>>> >
>>> > Perhaps a softer way to ask this question is:
>>> >
>>> > "Is there a specific version for each of the RPi platforms,
>>> specifically the Zero 2 W?"
>>> >
>>> > I haven't checked recently, but one of the issues I've seen preventin=
g
>>> a fully-functioning Zero 2 W on FreeBSD is the lack of the wireless dri=
ver
>>> (closed source). You might do some research into that and see if the
>>> situation has changed and, if possible, contribute to such work.
>>> >
>>>
>>> https://wiki.freebsd.org/arm/Raspberry%20Pi does not list
>>> any RPi* has having "WiFi" OK. It explicitly lists
>>> "Unsupported" for each of: RPI 3 / RPi3B+ / RPI 2 1.2 / RPi4 .
>>> As far as I know, no RPi* has ever had support for any
>>> built-in WiFi or the like.
>>>
>>> In other words: the normal FreeBSD RPi* type of context.
>>>
>>> =3D=3D=3D
>>> Mark Millard
>>> marklmi at yahoo.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Mario.
>>
>
>
> --
> Mario.
>


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Mario.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I think,this version :=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div=
><a href=3D"https://download.freebsd.org/releases/arm/armv7/ISO-IMAGES/14.2=
/FreeBSD-14.2-RELEASE-arm-armv7-GENERICSD.img.xz" target=3D"_blank">https:/=
/download.freebsd.org/releases/arm/armv7/ISO-IMAGES/14.2/FreeBSD-14.2-RELEA=
SE-arm-armv7-GENERICSD.img.xz</a></div><div><br></div><div>or, maybe, Firef=
ox can be optimized to run with 512 MB. For=20
example,installing the 32 bit version of Firefox on the Raspberry Pi=20
zero (if it exists),according with this post :<br>
<br>

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nt-size:16px;line-height:25.2px">
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just because on a 64 bit OS we can run 32 bit applications....at least=20
in Linux...</div><div><br></div><div>Mario.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12=
:06=E2=80=AFPM Mario Marietto &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:marietto2008@gmail.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">marietto2008@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px =
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Can I install Fre=
eBSD at 32 bit (if it exists) on the Raspberry Pi Zero 2W ?</div><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 14, =
2025 at 2:16=E2=80=AFAM Mario Marietto &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:marietto2008@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">marietto2008@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I w=
ill try all your suggestions one by one. Regarding the wi-fi on the raspber=
ry pi,I want to open a parentheses...=C2=A0 (</div><div><div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I&#39;m looking for a way to transform a BT keyboard=
=20
like that I&#39;ve bought (LILYGO t-keyboard) into a wired / USB keyboard.=
=C2=A0</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I
 need this conversion because FreeBSD
on the Raspy (and not only here) does not recognize almost all the BT/Wi-fi=
 devices or if it does,they will not work.=C2=A0 I found this adapter :<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.intelletto.com/products?id=3D3004" target=3D"_blank"=
>https://www.intelletto.com/products?id=3D3004</a><br>;
<br>
I would like to understand if it works like I imagine.=20
Basically what I want to do to reach the final goal are the following=20
tasks :=C2=A0
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">1) I attach the BT dongle<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">2) I turn on my LILYGO bt and it starts waiting for =
the signal<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">3) I attach your adapter<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">4) I do the pairing<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">5) FreeBSD recognizes the Keyboard as a USB device a=
nd it starts working.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div><div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I would like to know if,u=
sing that adapter, I can <span><span lang=3D"EN">exonerate FreeBSD from rec=
ognition or=20
maybe it&#39;s better to say make it work,</span></span>the BT dongle that =
I use to do the pairing with my LILYGO keyboard....if the keyboard will be =
recognized as one USB keyboard I can use use it on FreeBSD installed on the=
 Raspy.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">closed par=
entheses )</p></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 1:59=E2=80=AFAM Mark Mill=
ard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:marklmi@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">marklmi@yaho=
o.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex">On Apr 13, 2025, at 15:41, Zach Metzinger &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:zmetzi=
ng@pobox.com" target=3D"_blank">zmetzing@pobox.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; On 4/13/25 16:47, Mario Marietto wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Why isn&#39;t there a specific version of FreeBSD for the raspberr=
y pi zero 2W ?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hello Mario,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; You might think about re-wording that question. It sounds like that yo=
u&#39;re demanding that others do work, gratis, for you.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Perhaps a softer way to ask this question is:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &quot;Is there a specific version for each of the RPi platforms, speci=
fically the Zero 2 W?&quot;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I haven&#39;t checked recently, but one of the issues I&#39;ve seen pr=
eventing a fully-functioning Zero 2 W on FreeBSD is the lack of the wireles=
s driver (closed source). You might do some research into that and see if t=
he situation has changed and, if possible, contribute to such work.<br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://wiki.freebsd.org/arm/Raspberry%20Pi" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.freebsd.org/arm/Raspberry%20Pi</a>; does not =
list<br>
any RPi* has having &quot;WiFi&quot; OK. It explicitly lists<br>
&quot;Unsupported&quot; for each of: RPI 3 / RPi3B+ / RPI 2 1.2 / RPi4 .<br=
>
As far as I know, no RPi* has ever had support for any<br>
built-in WiFi or the like.<br>
<br>
In other words: the normal FreeBSD RPi* type of context.<br>
<br>
=3D=3D=3D<br>
Mark Millard<br>
marklmi at <a href=3D"http://yahoo.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank=
">yahoo.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><br><span class=3D"gmail_si=
gnature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">Ma=
rio.<br></div>
</blockquote></div><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><br><span class=3D"gmail_si=
gnature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">Ma=
rio.<br></div>
</blockquote></div><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><br><span class=3D"gmail_si=
gnature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature">Ma=
rio.<br></div>

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