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Grimes" Message-Id: <202103311321.12VDLnfv077334@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD-13.0-RC1-amd64-disc1.iso unbootable on memstick In-Reply-To: <202103071118.127BId2B068337@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> To: rgrimes@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 06:21:49 -0700 (PDT) CC: junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: rgrimes@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F9S5245v8z3NJc X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net has no SPF policy when checking 69.59.192.140) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.95 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[rgrimes@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dnsmgr.net]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.96)[0.957]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[69.59.192.140:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[69.59.192.140:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.90)[-0.904]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.999]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13868, ipnet:69.59.192.0/19, country:US]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Spam: Yes X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 17:06:51 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 13:36:07 -0000 > > Hi. > > > > Are you shure you're using *.memstick.img? > > I am shure I am NOT using memstick, as the subject says > I am using: > FreeBSD-13.0-RC1-amd64-disc1.iso > > > > *.iso are for optical drives. > > Ah, not since 12.0, these are now "hybrid" type images that > are designed to be written to either a dvd or memstick. > > > If your memstick can perfectly (or at least enough for CD loader and > > kernel) mimic optical drive, maybe with help by firmware, it would be > > able to boot. > > > > Otherwise, you should write FreeBSD-13.0-RC1-*-memstick.img with > > dd. If you are using enough-sized memstick and amd64 arch PC, > > FreeBSD-13.0-RC1-amd64-mrmstick.img should be preferred. > > > > Note that if you downloaded smaller xz compressed image, you shoule > > decompress it before writing. > > > > If you are using *-memstick.img, something should need fixed. > > I have tested the memstick image it works fine. > > I have also done further investigation and this appears to be > a Legacy/bios vs EFI mode issue. All legacy only machines > fail to boot with the above error, all dual mode machines > must be forced into either EFI only, or dual mode/EFI first > inorder to boot these images. EFI only machines boot fine. > > Is what it looks like is we have lost the ability to boot > the .iso images in bios mode from a memory stick. I have > NOT done any testing on dvd media. > > Further note all of this works fine upto and including BETA4 > on all my legacy bios machines, though I do see another > environment that fails at BETA4 and continues to, but that > is rather special, called ventoy: > https://www.ventoy.net/ > that environment is probably looking very much like a > legacy BIOS system as to the way I have my ventoy setup. This now works again at RC4. > > On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 01:06:14 -0800 (PST) > > "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > > > > Glen, > > > Things get worse... I could at least boot the BETA4 .iso when > > > I wrote it to a memstick. I can NOT boot the RC1. I have checked > > > the sha512 of my image, wrote it twice, same results, I get: > > I have now had Michael Dexter duplicate my findings, if he > sets his machines to either legacy first, or legacy only > he gets the same boot failures that I do when using the > FreeBSD-13.0-RC1-amd64-disc1.iso > image. > > > > > > > CD Loader 1.2 > > > > > > Bulding the boot loader arguments > > > Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... File not found > > > Looking up /boot/loader... File not found > > > Boot failed > > > > > > I have tried 2 different systems, all known to have booted and > > > installed many many many FreeBSD's from prior .iso written to > > > memstick. > > Now expanded to 4 systems, 2 of which can do dual mode Legacy/EFI. This issue is fixed in RC4, tested on: Thankpads: w530 legacy & uefi x230 legacy & uefi t400 legacy p61 legacy Acer: 1410 legacy > > > Regards, > > > Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org > > Tomoaki AOKI > Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org