From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 24 01:14:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBC2FA89; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 01:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cerebro.liukuma.net (cerebro.liukuma.net [IPv6:2a00:d1e0:1000:1b00::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A355C7C; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 01:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cerebro.liukuma.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cerebro.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB6F8A013E; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 03:16:23 +0200 (EET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 cerebro.liukuma.net 9EB6F8A013E DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=liukuma.net; s=liukudkim; t=1395623783; bh=pi4e3Pub0SyLnXG6Pe/2euE3v0k9OUL3koDxS375nFM=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Reply-To:In-Reply-To:References; b=VXlZdivbm/aBEm5mmXyml4gEVWL04XAz3qe2xX7gHPflmsi7xyasqSxHjR3mh8z2U q1jiX0ouolH7HZ5gaA/VD6YOb+iVGrEeWeLvVfosnkwuesZkNYaDPvoPO2ccHvEB9/ RFKCOM2b0jnqbvpNv/bXF6KFv+1SJkqVKRYCvCCY= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at liukuma.net Received: from cerebro.liukuma.net ([127.0.0.1]) by cerebro.liukuma.net (cerebro.liukuma.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with LMTP id PjtpF5GvX4UQ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 03:16:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail.liukuma.net (cerebro.liukuma.net [185.34.0.166]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: ignatz@cerebro.liukuma.net) by cerebro.liukuma.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BFB558A00CC; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 03:16:22 +0200 (EET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 cerebro.liukuma.net BFB558A00CC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 03:16:22 +0200 From: Reko Turja To: Baptiste Daroussin Subject: Re: reason 23 why we've moved to linux Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?L=C3=A4nsirannan_kebab_ja_henki?= Mail-Reply-To: reko.turja@liukuma.net In-Reply-To: <20140324004645.GD91792@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <532EDDD0.80700@ohlste.in> <20140324004645.GD91792@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> Message-ID: X-Sender: reko.turja@liukuma.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.9.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: reko.turja@liukuma.net List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 01:14:41 -0000 Baptiste Daroussin kirjoitti 24.3.2014 02:46: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 01:00:17AM +0200, Reko Turja wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> Of course, there are warts, snags and bumps now and then, but based on >> what >> I've seen, I like where the project is heading. Unless in the future >> the >> only way to build ports is using Poudriere + Sun/Oracle "How to get >> the >> suck... errr, customer invest into tons of our very costly special >> memory" >> filesystem. > > poudriere works perfectly without zfs ;) Poudriere wasn't always that way right? Or then I managed to misread the documentation at some point when pkgng first arrived for more public testing:) Anyways, that's good to know for the future, thanks! Another "me like" moment recently was when I upgraded some root dependency of SpamAssassin, just after the move, and portupgrade -rf handled the path change and port update without user intervention. That is a huge step in right direction IMO. Big thanks for all the parties who strive to make ports & packages better! -Reko