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Subject: Re: harder and harder to avoid pkg
To: David Demelier <demelier.david@gmail.com>,
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David Demelier wrote on 2016/10/13 14:42:
> 2016-10-12 10:04 GMT+02:00 Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence.it>:
>> On 10/12/16 09:24, Matthieu Volat wrote:
>>
>>> And GNU/Linuxes can be a PITA when you have to track -dev(el) packages
>>> (which sometimes really requires -bin, -app or whatever), or worst, describe
>>> to people how they are supposed to build your software with weird subpackage
>>> names.
>>>
>>> I really like that ports provides the software project as intended by
>>> upstream (modulo options).
>>
>>
>> Just a "me too" here!
>
> Could not agree more.
>
> Please forget that idea.
>
> I just hate having to install libfoo, libfoo-dev, libfoo-dbg,
> libfoo-doc, libfoo-whatever each time I need to develop on Linux.
> Please do not transform FreeBSD as a Linux distribution :)
>
> I love the way FreeBSD and some very sparse Linux distributions
> provide the packages exactly how it would be installed by hand (=
> vanilla).
>
> FreeBSD offers some options and very few changes for better
> integration but packages are provided vanilla. You want a package? You
> install /packagename/ nothing more, nothing less. I really would like
> to see simple vanilla packages for the next 10 years.
>
> The FreeBSD ports is already extremely complicated, do not make it
> even harder :(

+1 for this!

Miroslav Lachman