From owner-freebsd-arch Fri Oct 26 13:45:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D51B37B403 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id f9QKirg17919; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:44:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:44:53 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: Matthew Dillon , Poul-Henning Kamp , Peter Wemm , arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 64 bit times revisited.. Message-ID: <20011026134453.B17758@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200110260006.f9Q05vQ05273@beastie.mckusick.com> <200110260047.f9Q0lsf16513@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from drosih@rpi.edu on Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 01:29:53PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 26, 2001 at 01:29:53PM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 5:47 PM -0700 10/25/01, Matthew Dillon wrote: > >:I vote for option (3), 64-bit time_t for all 64 bit architectures. > >:I would go along with option (4) provided that the change-over came > >:with FreeBSD 5.0 and it was not MFC'ed back to the 4.X series. > > > > I agree completely. 64 bit time_t for all 64 bit archs, and > > frankly I would also like to see a 64 bit time_t for 5.x on 32 > > bit archs... lets get the pain over and done with now rather > > then later. > > Let me waste a few electrons by also agreeing to this general > direction. We are hoping to bring on new platforms of sparc64 > and ia-64 for the 5.0-timeframe (or certainly before the 6.0 > timeframe). It would be exceedingly stupid to start out those > 64-bit platforms on 32-bit time_t's, when we KNOW we will have > switch to 64-bit times at some later point. So, I would put in > a very strong, pound-the-table vote for 64-bit time_t on 64-bit > architectures. I disagree. I have experience trying to run our "lesser" [used] platform, most of you do not. Keeping things bug-for-bug and "feature"-for-"feature" identical is important. > Given 64-bit time_t's for the new platforms, we might as well go > for 64-bit times on all platforms (although we obviously can > not MFC that back into the 4.x-branch for 32-bit platforms). I > don't feel quite so strongly about 64-bit time_t's on 32-bit > architectures, but it does seem like the right thing to do. 64-bit for FreeBSD or 32-bit for FreeBSD. No 1/2's please. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message