From owner-freebsd-current Wed Dec 23 08:44:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08342 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:44:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles246.castles.com [208.214.165.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08328 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:44:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02820; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:42:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812231642.IAA02820@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: brian@worldcontrol.com cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SANE, USB, -current step 2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:36:58 PST." <19981222213658.A743@top.worldcontrol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:42:17 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > [brian@litzinger.com wrote]: > > > Now does anyone have a primer on using the ugen device to talk to the > > > device? > > > > Perhaps /dev/ugen0 is dynamically created and I can talk serially to the > > > device via read/write? > > On Tue, Dec 22, 1998 at 03:29:46PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > Dream on. 8) > > At some level isn't it a generic serial bus? Can't anyone ever do > anything in an easy and straight forward manner? No. No. > Shouldn't I be able to bypass the HID/Class stuff and talk directly > to the device regardless of the hideously horrible manufacturer > specific protocol it may speak? "Should?", perhaps. But you can't, so stop whining. 8) > Then I could add the HID/Class stuff later. I promise. ;-) Yeah, right. 8) Seriously, USB and its protocols have some fairly good reasons for existing, and making whiny compromises like you're proposing impossible is one of them. Most hardware vendors wouldn't make the promise you're making, and thus the protocols make cheating very difficult. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message