From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Oct 16 17:46:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA01337 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:46:14 -0700 Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [144.206.136.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA01329 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:46:09 -0700 Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA28698 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Tue, 17 Oct 1995 02:50:58 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Tue, 17 Oct 95 02:50:58 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by ache.dialup.demos.ru (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA00541; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 02:49:45 +0300 To: "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" , Terry Lambert Cc: hackers@freefall.freebsd.org, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de References: <199510162211.PAA25592@phaeton.artisoft.com> In-Reply-To: <199510162211.PAA25592@phaeton.artisoft.com>; from Terry Lambert at Mon, 16 Oct 1995 15:11:17 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 02:49:45 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.40 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: A couple problems in FreeBSD 2.1.0-950922-SNAP Lines: 30 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1300 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199510162211.PAA25592@phaeton.artisoft.com> Terry Lambert writes: >> Along the same line, it'd be really convenient if the default chartype >> table had its right side populated for ISO8859-1 so that broken tools >> could still manage to do the right thing most of the time. >My major premise in this whole discussion is that the bogus code in >crt0.o is a result of trying to correct the C locale deficiencies >without actually correcting the C locale. >It is a kludge on a bug, not a bugfix. Lets consider, how your proposed hack differs from mine: You plan to force non-locale-aware programs to 8859-1, it works right for 8859-1 users as exactly matched case, so for such users my hack == your hack, no diffs exists. When users are not 8859-1, your hack != my hack, because you load so-called 'default udefined table' and I load table which match current charset. Lets consider, what is better for user, some 'default undefined hack' or code table which match his charset exactly? -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - FidoNet: 2:5020/230.3 : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849