From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 28 16:10:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952F516A417 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@kfs.ru) Received: from kfs.ru (kfs.kfs.ru [62.183.117.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2941F13C46E for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@kfs.ru) Received: from bsam by kfs.ru with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1IxPAL-000IUP-PE; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:49:33 +0300 To: Remko Lodder References: <34310.194.74.82.3.1196149799.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> <87076177@ipt.ru> <474C473F.3080805@elvandar.org> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:49:33 +0300 In-Reply-To: <474C473F.3080805@elvandar.org> (Remko Lodder's message of "Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:35:11 +0100") Message-ID: <31705954@serv3.int.kfs.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: "Boris B. Samorodov" Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/internal/fortunes.html rewording X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:10:45 -0000 On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:35:11 +0100 Remko Lodder wrote: > Boris Samorodov wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:49:59 +0100 (CET) Remko Lodder wrote: > >> On Tue, November 27, 2007 12:05 am, Benjamin M. A'Lee wrote: > > > >>> Replace: > >>> Examples of entries that should not usually be declared 'offensive': > >>> * Hitler quotes. > > > > I have already asked the question at another list but didn't get an > > answer. As I'm not a native English speaker can someone say what that > > phrase mean? As for me it seams like "Examples of enties that mainly > > are not offensive: * Hitler qoutes". > This means that quotes by Hitler should not by default be seen as > offensive quotes. Imo he was a cruel man (to say the least) but > that should have no influence on some of his quotes. I asked some linguists and they said I was right. > >> Personally I do not see a real reason to update this text, > > > > I'd prefer to see someting like "Examples and entries that sometimes > > may be not offensive: * Hitler quotes". But why the official FreeBSD > > site should point an attention at him personally? Seems that this is just how you understand that web page... > >> I think it is > >> fine as it is now, and indeed everyone should decide for him or herself > >> whether these quotes are offensive or not, > > > > OK, let _others_ decide it after reading those quotes. But let's stay > > away of the politics at the official site. Using his name _alone_ *is* > > politics. > No, it's just one example that is being displayed, we could also > cite some other cruel person from the past.. And that example may confuse/astonish someone (may be many) else? Isn't it a best idea to remove strict examples? > >> I think the world is already > >> full of the additions that you are proposing :-) lets keep it simple.. > > > > OK, I'll try to advice a simple phrase that has a strict apolitical > > meaning and send it via PR. > OKI I noticed the PR, lets see what other people think:) OK. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve