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Grimes" , Cy Schubert Cc: Enji Cooper , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Michael Tuexen , "koobs@freebsd.org" , Bryan Drewery Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 10:53:12 -0600 In-Reply-To: <201906191630.x5JGUJ3H018954@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> References: <201906191630.x5JGUJ3H018954@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7BC756EE50 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.99 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.990,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:52.58.0.0/15, country:US]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 16:53:34 -0000 On Wed, 2019-06-19 at 09:30 -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > In message < > > fffbe5d47e3515c960429ab416bf2ba234f9671d.camel@freebsd.org> > > , Ian Le > > pore writes: > > > On Tue, 2019-06-18 at 07:01 -0700, Enji Cooper wrote: > > > > > On Jun 18, 2019, at 06:59, Enji Cooper > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 18, 2019, at 06:53, Ian Lepore > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > Last Saturday, Bryan (cc'd) made a series of commits > > > > > > (r349061-69) > > > > > > that > > > > > > were all somehow related to dependency processing in the > > > > > > build. I > > > > > > don't know the details, just remember seeing some commits > > > > > > about > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > I remember that as well. This might have changed the > > > > > dependency > > > > > order subtly, introducing a race. > > > > > > > > > > The headers might not be built in all cases in time now. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > -Enji > > > > > > > > > > PS This is one of the reasons why I wasn???t quick to > > > > > discount Peter > > > > > Jeremy???s reported build issue. > > > > > > > > Correction: I meant Julian Stacey. > > > > > > Julian Stacey has 3 problems: > > > > > > 1. Missing opt_cam.h > > > 2. Missing yacc.h > > > 3. A years-long inability to report a problem without hurling > > > personal > > > insults at the project and everyone associated with it. > > > > > > Because of #3, I don't much care about 1 and 2. > > > > Bingo! My point exactly! > > You can't understand the frustration of 25 years of > having system build breakage on a pretty regular basis > as a trigger point for anger? > I understand how inappropriate it is for a project member to condone or excuse the verbal abuse of other project members. Somone with anger management problems likely shouldn't be running current, where a certain amount of short-term breakage is normal and expected. -- Ian