From owner-freebsd-current Tue Feb 19 10: 3: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from energyhq.homeip.net (213-97-200-73.uc.nombres.ttd.es [213.97.200.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC59B37B404 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:02:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by energyhq.homeip.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 493773FC45; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 19:01:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 19:01:42 +0100 From: Miguel Mendez To: Michael Lucas Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more -current testers Message-ID: <20020219190142.A66679@energyhq.homeip.net> References: <20020219125011.A15871@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ibTvN161/egqYuK8" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020219125011.A15871@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 12:50:11PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 12:50:11PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: Hi Michael, > It seems that the best we can hope for is to educate some of the > braver users who are ready to take the next step and are willing to > donate some time to us. Agreed. I think there are people out there willing to help and become testers, they're just afraid of -CURRENT 'horror histories'. Running -current is not a walk in the park, and no one should attempt to do any serious work with it, but imho it's stable enough for your average mp3 listening, web browsing and kde/gnome/whathaveyou usage. =20 > I'm considering doing a series of articles on testing FreeBSD-current, > including: setting up for kernel dumps, what to type at the debugger > prompt after a crash, filing a decent bug report, what to expect from > -current, and so on. I would also make it clear when to not bother > filing a bug report (i.e., "You crashed, but had no WITNESS? Sorry, > enable WITNESS & try again."). This would be (I suspect) three > articles, running about a month and a half. Sounds very good, and yes, most people disable witness so their system doesn't crawl like a 286 :) > My question to the community is: is it too early to do this? If I > start now, the articles would probably appear April-May. I don't think it's too early, IMHO it's a very good idea, having specific info on how to use -CURRENT will be beneficial for the community and atract more users to it. Cheers, --=20 Miguel Mendez - flynn@energyhq.homeip.net GPG Public Key :: http://energyhq.homeip.net/files/pubkey.txt EnergyHQ :: http://www.energyhq.tk FreeBSD - The power to serve! --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8cpMEnLctrNyFFPERApcSAKCZfZgK3eDYrvh8tapE2Ko+GMVc3ACgs+Cd CXXmWUvz50lwRhEVJXVFsCY= =BMbk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ibTvN161/egqYuK8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message