From nobody Tue Apr 7 06:40:57 2026 X-Original-To: dev-commits-ports-main@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4fqc630ZLRz6YtF5; Tue, 07 Apr 2026 06:40:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R13" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4fqc623hsLz3mT5; Tue, 07 Apr 2026 06:40:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1775544058; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=txtBhog1AwHRv24OH+rw0087BblxT5fegqv9e7KNJPc=; b=umRBXsLYs8z94JpEbMSoHYU+ZTL52ZOtoX5jZUDtVcQAaoEzN4ikSUixC2P1Baj/cB4kz5 hI+leW7TJ+FuA2fap+CkC3/Orboga/7Ask9ylnrawSQUJm42rH/EbQISH8z1E6VblqdcPZ iY7+2Wcl8a3foyB3V64odpmcR192n6Dt+CnVdeddQMMsOPe0IKQL7M0wnbzMhqz+uL6c7h gWydKdk10uAw0T0grIhVQjp09qFVZsgEUfBf3OBs9SgU2456fP12E2H29Fd4eapP4yfuQg fwhnNfC2b7J1mSfbATtp8CS6bb2RYSm++jag09GzrBcT8A/HoVTfdbkWYXmPGQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1775544058; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=EmgWIy9SnHdl3N1q2tUpTEBmZaiRQtC3uUQd3ma3IDkSTuJ2PYorxq/iDLJlg4ZE3wp/LM Rmd00zH24192Ea4w/ILSuB+3incNzYBnQ+Ssi1oinIHewRIJEaOJ/BdKtdzOQIbSFF51Tb eKai9r8hc5zNShXr7+cFS5yAM37kVgxR6cFHQV2nVlno97+b+qETsHQm4Duyp0ouCntxBJ tsP4OH1Yery+Cu1AIJxXyLaJkk3A+4O+wsCTLdM/y4LSW75S08G/LAfEJhAq7SXmrsUP1J 3BtG+oYp1xRQhZyE4iPpbeB1WiOUVSP2fWjJnl+kln4saqdJ0bbPEZQtAhO8gw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1775544058; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=txtBhog1AwHRv24OH+rw0087BblxT5fegqv9e7KNJPc=; b=P2xTOUgWeCzrEquWL4Ky9znl46ecLlHRW9LL9zME3Kdxk5RYkVsLylgiN180Ehme87uGsb iDQydovkTGT37mm15OJ+7P+0Mj0iB8tEE7GrHvcVJx33EHZ6bKVlEAWZl+kzH4LMv+weqC 13TyB9dlbyv4urMd5O7x0Kr+afdbV7fpXz0CsvNvmNTh1A460rFpJrxJLAES+dFiO3xi3y STzDW+6QZgS44c4oQt95m0mO2EmLbVDIhiBOx2qwmDoXsnD8osmzR+2N1vQQtkk31S1Viw lLIIArzwcTI2Bg3vg1kaX944zJ3lQVm88Uur/vagfVK4tD7gnDaLHW37dFizpw== Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id 26AE990D8; Tue, 07 Apr 2026 06:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2026 06:40:57 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Gleb Popov Cc: Vladimir Druzenko , Charlie Li , ports-committers , dev-commits-ports-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: ef9180aa8469 - main - science/py-scipy: update to 1.17.1 Message-ID: References: <69d03cf2.430ed.2d4d8408@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <37778713-0656-4edf-83d5-0b7a84bceb8e@freebsd.org> <3d372c89-9f77-4033-80e0-6cec0781d568@freebsd.org> <8648dad5-11cc-4a79-83e2-47edfb5b99e1@freebsd.org> List-Id: Commits to the main branch of the FreeBSD ports repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-ports-main List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org Sender: owner-dev-commits-ports-main@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: On Tue, Apr 07, 2026 at 08:28:16AM +0200, Gleb Popov wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2026, 02:54 Vladimir Druzenko wrote: > > 05.04.2026 00:54, Charlie Li пишет: > > > ... > > > This part is unspoken, but bears speaking and documenting somewhere > > > better than bugzilla and mailing lists: building Python packages on a > > > live environment, ie without environment separation like virtual > > > environments or jails (poudriere included) is not supported, even if > > > the ports framework makes it technically possible to try. > > > > You just wrote that one of the main advantages of FreeBSD over other > > operating systems "is not supported". > > Building in an non-isolated environment is certainly not an advantage and > even does not have anything to do with the OS. It is a huge advantage and it *is* about the OS because FreeBSD is one of the very few offering this out of the box. It might not appeal to you particularly, but many of us heavily depend on this great feature! ./danfe