From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 10 15: 8:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716DF37BD47 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02891; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.9.3/8.7.3) id PAA35137; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:08:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Message-Id: <200008102208.PAA35137@tao.thought.org> Subject: Re: Congrats! To: kstewart@urx.com Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Cc: root@hammerfell.dhs.org (Charlie ROOT), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <39931A1D.2F937B9E@urx.com> from "Kent Stewart" at Aug 10, 2000 02:09:49 PM Organization: <> thought.org: pvblic service Unix since 1986... <> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Kent Stewart: > > > > Gary Kline wrote: > > [[ ... ]] > > I don't see any point to it. I also like 4.1 much better than 3.x. I'm > one of the people that tried the cvsup route to upgrade to 4.0R and > failed; however, a couple of weeks later someone else had the same > problem I did and, at that point, we understood what I had done wrong. > They corrected what they were doing and it worked. By then, Warner had > upgraded /usr/src/UPDATING to make it more clear about creating a new > kernel config file from GENERIC and to use either GENERIC or your > edited version of it in the make build(install)kernel sequence. > MYKERNEL had to be an existing file. DUH! :) The only point I can think of to go 3.2 -> 3.5 to 4.1 would be to avoid the white-knuckles:) of having to follow Annelise A's instructions absolutely-precisely. Actually, I made a typo while following along and that cost me an extra night + 6 more hours of reinstalling 3.2 and then going back and following her instructions. So my first attempt failed. But since I really had nothing to lose.... > > The big shock is how much longer a buildworld takes. It is close to 2x > a make of 3.x. If you have access to a decent network, download the > iso and you can do a binary upgrade. It has far less trouble. Sooner > or later, you have to do a build world and the question is when are > you going to do it. The only tricky problem is proceeding through some > of the modules. You are really bootstraping your way up and can have > problems. Herr Engelschall on 3 August had a pretty complete write up > on the problems they had upgrading a number of systems from 3.5S to > 4.1S. Check the stable archive for "[PROCEDURE] Successful 3.5-S to > 4.1-S upgrade", which I don't think is limited to 3.5. Thanks for the pointer. I'll find, printout and study before I do anything. --This time I think I'll make two full backups. > > Did you solve your subscription problem. One of the recent problems > was a badly placed email filter. You don't know it is badly placed > until later but that was the problem. The confirmation messages were > being forwarded to the bit-bucket. I could submit his text and would > get a message from the majordomo that a request was being sent to > their email address. I could also send their text minus the email > address and subscribe but they couldn't. That made the problem a local > one to their end but finding it was a little bit more work. > This last time I re-sub'd there was no return blurb about my having to be approved because -stable was a private group. So it simply worked after I returned the confirmation. --I haven't re-sub'd to ports yet. gary -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message