From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Sep 3 19:24:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895F437B400 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D12F43E42 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:24:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0171.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.192.171] helo=mindspring.com) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17mPqa-0002Xy-00; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 19:24:48 -0700 Message-ID: <3D756EB4.DE0179ED@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 19:23:48 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Neal E. Westfall" Cc: Dave Hayes , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? References: <20020903133932.W66978-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Neal E. Westfall" wrote: > On Sat, 31 Aug 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > Nature seems to vote against that one. > > > > > > How so? > > > > By evolving creatures who imprison or kill peers who engage in > > forcible reproductive acts, thereby ensuring their removal from > > the gene pool. > > Have either of you ever wondered why, over billions of years, evolution > hasn't made these problems irrelevant? I mean, how many billions of > years do we need to wait for evolution to kick in and remove the > miscreants? Either it's not a genetic trait, or the gene is recessive. Recessive genes do not get eliminated from the population, because there is no evolutionary pressure on the bearers of the genes, only on their offspring in which the genes are expressed. > > A society no more cares for its individual members than you > > care for the individual cells which make up your body. > > Why then all the talk about "the rights of the state"? Thus implying a state which cares not for individual members has no rights? By that argument, we should not talk about the rights of the individual, since individuals are made up of cells, yet do not care for the rights of the individual cells of which they are composed... and therefore have no rights. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message