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In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:07:12 MDT."
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:41:01 -0700
From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
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Subject: Re: cvs commit: src UPDATING src/etc/defaults rc.conf src/etc/rc.d
	Makefile ntpd rpcbind 
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> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 00:07:12 -0600 (MDT)
> From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
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> In message: <200409140301.i8E31cvR099301@repoman.freebsd.org>
>             Sean Chittenden <seanc@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> : ntpdate's use has been depreciated by the ntpd
> : authors for quite some time so this change shouldn't be unexpected.
> 
> Except that ntpdate is still useful, despite their views to the
> contrary.  I really really really do not like this change.

Looking in CVS, I don't see any defaults for the servers for ntpdate or
ntpd to use. It is probably a VERY good idea to recommend in the man
page and, maybe, UPDATING, that iburst be used as an option on the
server declarations in ntp.conf. This will GREATLY enhance startup time.

e.g.
server 192.168.100.45 iburst

It's also worth noting that the use of either numeric IP addresses or
'-4' in ntp.conf is important. If ntp sees an IPv6 address, it will only
use that address, even if IPv6 is not available. (In other words, it
won't work!)
-- 
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634