From owner-freebsd-chat Sat May 13 23:43:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449F737BCBB for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 23:43:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mellon@jurai.net) Received: (from mellon@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) id CAA57485; Sun, 14 May 2000 02:43:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 02:43:08 -0400 From: Anatoly Vorobey To: "Thomas M. Sommers" Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why are people against GNU? WAS Re: 5.0 already? Message-ID: <20000514024308.A57423@sasami.jurai.net> References: <003b01bfbcdc$6059fb40$a164aad0@kickme> <391D71FE.1570F551@asme.org> <20000513205610.A22103@physics.iisc.ernet.in> <3.0.6.32.20000513143506.00895650@mail85.pair.com> <20000514010614.A16058@happy.checkpoint.com> <3.0.6.32.20000513180213.00894400@mail85.pair.com> <20000514023000.A16663@happy.checkpoint.com> <3.0.6.32.20000513192827.00895a10@mail85.pair.com> <20000514040731.B17455@happy.checkpoint.com> <391E27DD.320D4BBF@mail.ptd.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <391E27DD.320D4BBF@mail.ptd.net>; from tms2@mail.ptd.net on Sun, May 14, 2000 at 12:13:17AM -0400 X-Disclaimer: I was young, I needed the money! Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You, Thomas M. Sommers, were spotted writing this on Sun, May 14, 2000 at 12:13:17AM -0400: > Anatoly Vorobey wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 13, 2000 at 07:28:27PM -0500, G. Adam Stanislav wrote: > > > At 02:30 14-05-2000 +0000, Anatoly Vorobey wrote: > > > >Chess games cannot be copyrighted. > > > > > > A chess player does not create anything. > > > > You are sadly mistaken. It's clearly no use to debate this further, > > however, since you seem to be firmly set in your prejudices. > > > > Next, consider crossword puzzles. They can't be copyrighted. They > > are a result of hard work. > > Do you have a citation in support of this proposition? I have certainly > seen copyright notices on collections of puzzles. The collections are copyrighted as *collections*, according to the law of database copyright. You can rip off any individual crossword and do with it what you will (you can't do that when the collection is of poems). Sorry, no citation. I am less willing to stake my life on the crosswords issue than on the chess games issue, though, where the fact that individual games can't be copyrighted is used every day by thousands of papers all over the world in their news section, and is well-known inside the community of chess fans and writers, etc. -- Anatoly Vorobey, mellon@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~mellon/ "Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly" - G.K.Chesterton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message