From owner-freebsd-chat Thu May 16 10:27: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4212037B403 for ; Thu, 16 May 2002 10:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from k6-2-300.tisys.org (ppp-164.wobline.de [212.68.69.172]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/sh-2002041503) with ESMTP id g4GHQR501648; Thu, 16 May 2002 19:26:27 +0200 Received: from daemon.tisys.org (palomino-1533.tisys.org [192.168.0.3]) by k6-2-300.tisys.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4GHQPo2036272; Thu, 16 May 2002 19:26:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nils@daemon.tisys.org) Received: (from nils@localhost) by daemon.tisys.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g4GHR1sc009019; Thu, 16 May 2002 19:27:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 19:25:46 +0200 From: Nils Holland To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The road ahead? Message-ID: <20020516192546.B8944@daemon.tisys.org> References: <20020516004909.A9808@daemon.tisys.org> <15586.61471.456290.764885@guru.mired.org> <20020515211922.J1282@darkstar.gte.net> <3CE34A8B.7D999E2C@mindspring.com> <20020516091031.A2259@daemon.tisys.org> <15587.56669.382241.766052@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <15587.56669.382241.766052@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Thu, May 16, 2002 at 11:25:01AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD palomino-1533.tisys.org 4.6-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE X-Machine-Uptime: 7:14PM up 10:31, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 11:25:01AM -0500, Mike Meyer stood up and spoke: > > The problem is that that the big publishing companies and the > RIAA currently take a slice of the profits, and they obviously aren't > willing to endorse any mechanism that leaves them out of the cash > flow. So much so that they're trying to force every computer buyer to > pay more for their computer just so they can enforce the model they > want. As said previously, I live in Germany, but if what I have been reading / hearing recently is correct, then the US publishing companies (or whoever) want to make it illegal for users to use any device that doesn't include the copyright protection mechanisms they have created. Finding ways around such mechanisms in devices that do employ them should also be illegal according to them. I should probably try to get some more in-depth information on that topic, but from the bits and pieces I currently know, this is very insane. Seems that some companies want to make *any* technology illegal that *could* theoretically be used to violate the copyright. That's somhow like outlawing ordinary knives, as these could (illegally) be used to kill people... Greetings Nils -- Nils Holland Ti Systems - http://www.tisys.org Addicted to computing since 1987 High on FreeBSD since 1996 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message