From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 22 13:18:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E89E106564A for ; Sat, 22 May 2010 13:18:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396E48FC13 for ; Sat, 22 May 2010 13:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (HSI-KBW-078-042-098-160.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de [78.42.98.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81618A1DCD; Sat, 22 May 2010 15:18:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BF7D9A6.6070500@bsdforen.de> Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 15:18:30 +0200 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100331 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4BF0EDC9.3090603@bsdforen.de> <4BF15A62.7070602@janh.de> <4BF14C8C.1030804@bsdforen.de> <4BF1B74D.4030504@bsdforen.de> In-Reply-To: <4BF1B74D.4030504@bsdforen.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Christian Walther , stable-list freebsd Subject: Re: if_wpi is all kinds of broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 13:18:32 -0000 On 17/05/2010 23:38, Dominic Fandrey wrote: > On 17/05/2010 23:29, Warren Block wrote: >> On Mon, 17 May 2010, Christian Walther wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 17 May 2010 17:05, Warren Block wrote: >>>> On Mon, 17 May 2010, Dominic Fandrey wrote: >>>>> [...] >>> >>>> The ipw card in my T42 is the older mini-PCI (no "e"). >>> >>> Yes, and replacing this card is a problem, because the wireless card >>> in many IBM Thinkpad Laptops have a custom firmware, and the cards ID >>> is listed in the laptops BIOS. It won't work with any card not listed >>> there. There are ways to either flash the cards firmware or the BIOS >>> list, but I don't think that it's worth it. >> >> Just because I have this link handy: >> http://www.paul.sladen.org/thinkpad-r31/wifi-card-pci-ids.html >> >> That also has a link to some information on HP's version of the same thing. > > The official genuine parts list for my notebook only lists Intel and > Boradcom wireless modules. So I suppose I'll just have to risk > buying a PCIe Atheros that I cannot use. OK, this didn't really come as a surprise, the BIOS doesn't like Atheros: 104-Unsupported wireless network device detected. System halted. Remove device and restart. I'm currently bypassing this by hotswapping the device after passing the BIOS check and I have to say, the Atheros device works great! No package loss, no interrupted connections ... even though I'm not very close to the AP. I put the connection under serious stress and it just keeps on working. It actually appears to be /reliable/. A term I never dared dream to apply to wireless networking. -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?