From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 23 15:40:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EED106564A for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 15:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from annulen@yandex.ru) Received: from forward4.mail.yandex.net (forward4.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279608FC1A for ; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 15:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web46.yandex.ru (web46.yandex.ru [77.88.47.185]) by forward4.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 5C5F36AD8708; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 19:40:17 +0400 (MSD) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1287848417; bh=ERitMY/pR+RXuNydNWGVh75HclBdcXe6gyV6uM9JLYE=; h=From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-Id: Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=g7BVyveb4c8fc3GBjqoXW2uvLZ/rNpe6rh9jM8qMCopPY3OW8kPoWLsqH1hqWVigo cOIR3uwcqeHeyHTTCztvf4z1P1pTvDdK+lZO4N8zqQrfkSWdUNGZw4olXqwfS8ufpp FwYe9OxFNmStOsF/upVZT8aqqQVJYltk7Jy3jahI= Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by web46.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 40AEC3681DC; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 19:40:17 +0400 (MSD) X-Yandex-Spam: 0 X-Yandex-Front: web46.yandex.ru X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1287848417 Received: from ppp95-165-218-99.pppoe.spdop.ru (ppp95-165-218-99.pppoe.spdop.ru [95.165.218.99]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Sat, 23 Oct 2010 19:40:15 +0400 From: Konstantin Tokarev To: Tomek CEDRO In-Reply-To: References: <23761287738657@web27.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <219981287848415@web46.yandex.ru> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 19:40:15 +0400 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GIMP 2.4 - better ui usability X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 15:40:19 -0000 23.10.2010, 18:38, "Tomek CEDRO" : > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Konstantin Tokarev wrote: > >>> šMaybe someone has similar feeling, so I thought maybe >>> šits not that bad idea to create GIMP 2.4 port that keep all of the >>> šnice features destroyed by a new design team in GIMP 2.6? >> šHaven't you tried to take in contact with GIMP developers? > > Unfortunately yes [1], a new group of shitheads with "better sense of > taste" got into project and they know better than users what is more > comfortable. There are dozens of requests on bugzilla [2] to bring the > menu back to the toolbox, even separate project dedicated to make this > menu visible again in the toolbar [3]. All this is rejected, even no > option to make it work is being left. The old work and good habits are > destroyed with no alternative. The only arguments of Martin Nordholts > that I had talked with is that I "have no taste" because he knows no > "another program that has two main menus" (*) and so "There is no > arguing this, we won't add the menu back. Period.". I don't understand > why they don't want to leave this menu in toolbox as user choice > option. I only hope this kind of stuff never happens on FreeBSD > project. Probably port of gimp-classic (or option in GIMP port to add this patch) would be better solution than using outdated version. UI is not the only component of GIMP being changed by developers -- Regards, Konstantin