From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 14:13:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF1D1065744 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012A88FC1C for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:13:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odyssey.starpoint.kiev.ua (alpha-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.101]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id RAA14679; Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:13:29 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Message-ID: <4C879A09.9080804@icyb.net.ua> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:13:29 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100823 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vadim_nuclight@mail.ru References: <201009011653.o81Grkm4056064@fire.js.berklix.net> <4C8704E3.5000408@FreeBSD.org> <201009080842.28495.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Policy for removing working code X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:13:32 -0000 on 08/09/2010 17:01 Vadim Goncharov said the following: > Big thanks for your work, but unfortunately, the problem itself is not ISDN or > network stack, it is deeper. It is the policy or may be style of thought, > discourse. Something like: > progress dictates we need fix/maintainership to feature X > & we have no resources to maintain feature X > -> we announce theis need, but only to _limited_ audience, not wide circles > -> nobody responds > -> the X code is removed > AND we think this logic chain is correct, thought we did not things this way > even 5 years ago. So, get to work, become a committer, get elected to core and have a control over these procedures. [And maybe your perspectives will change along the way] Until then, please, let's stop wasting time on this issue. -- Andriy Gapon